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wtf spot vs damurdera3 early in 750k

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  1. The Caretaker The Caretaker is offline

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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 5:49pm)

    from what i know hes a good player,
    what possible holdings is he taking this line with ?
    tournament basically just started
    Full Tilt Poker Game #18857063339: $750,000 Guarantee (130572087), Table 235 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:22:53 ET - 2010/02/28
    Seat 1: slabstract (4,465)
    Seat 2: Orientalvisitor (3,190)
    Seat 3: DaMurdera3 (3,349)
    Seat 4: JztinSane9 (3,015)
    Seat 5: NutsErryTime (2,646)
    Seat 6: tschang (1,845)
    Seat 7: E Tyme (2,860)
    Seat 8: Every1s Problem (2,910)
    Seat 9: JimmyJimmy76 (2,720)
    slabstract posts the small blind of 15
    Orientalvisitor posts the big blind of 30
    The button is in seat #9
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Every1s Problem [xx]
    DaMurdera3 calls 30
    JztinSane9 folds
    NutsErryTime folds
    tschang calls 30
    E Tyme folds
    Every1s Problem raises to 120
    JimmyJimmy76 folds
    slabstract folds
    Orientalvisitor folds
    DaMurdera3 has 15 seconds left to act
    DaMurdera3 calls 90
    tschang folds
    *** FLOP *** [6c 6s Ks]
    DaMurdera3 has 15 seconds left to act
    DaMurdera3 bets 149
    Every1s Problem has 15 seconds left to act
    Every1s Problem calls 149
    *** TURN *** [6c 6s Ks] [5d]
    DaMurdera3 has 15 seconds left to act
    DaMurdera3 bets 499
    Every1s Problem has 15 seconds left to act
    Every1s Problem calls 499
    *** RIVER *** [6c 6s Ks 5d] [6d]
    DaMurdera3 has 15 seconds left to act
    DaMurdera3 has requested TIME
    DaMurdera3 bets 2,581, and is all in
    Every1s Problem has 15 seconds left to act
    Every1s Problem has requested TIME
     
  2. DiscussIt DiscussIt is offline

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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 7:31pm) in reply to The Caretaker

    I don't see a reason why this isn't a K every time. Unless the first bet was an inducer bet trying to get you to raise (b/c he has the 6), but I don't see what hand he would have a 6 in with oop. I guess maybe 1 in 7 times or so he gets tricky w/ AA, the other 7 times its a K, and the other 2 its like an 46-86 suited.
  3. bef99hwk bef99hwk is offline

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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 7:46pm) in reply to DiscussIt

    This is not a Kx...isn't he a nit? If anything I'd guess a 6x before a Kx...maybe even AA
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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 7:50pm) in reply to bef99hwk

    aces.
     
  5. bef99hwk bef99hwk is offline

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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 8:05pm) in reply to Deoxyribo

     
    Originally Posted by Deoxyribo View Post

    aces.

    Agree with you 1000%...don't even think he is bad enough to have a 6 in his range here and the 6 on river makes it less likely.
  6. The Caretaker The Caretaker is offline

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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 8:29pm) in reply to The Caretaker

    what do you guys need to call the river shove?
     
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  7. The Caretaker The Caretaker is offline

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    Mar 2nd, 2010 (3/2/2010 3:41pm) in reply to The Caretaker

    bump

    id like more opinions on his hand range and what i should be calling with
     
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  8. flipbsj flipbsj is offline

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    Mar 2nd, 2010 (3/2/2010 4:17pm) in reply to The Caretaker

    we know he has aces or ak. I really don't think he's shoving anything less. So you pretty much need a 6, AA, or KK here to call
  9. supa_donk supa_donk is offline

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    Mar 2nd, 2010 (3/2/2010 5:19pm) in reply to flipbsj

    first instinct when seeing ppl post he is good/maybe nittish is that he has some sorta 6, 65s/76s maybe A6s. after river hit with a 3rd 6 my head exploded... i discounted limping AA utg as i dont see it in the higher buy ins but more in the micro/mids but maybe he is getting creative/tricky early on in this thing. i would have hard time calling with K but in real time i could see it happening. sick spot, looking forward to results
     
  10. s.l. halper s.l. halper is offline

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    Mar 2nd, 2010 (3/2/2010 5:32pm) in reply to supa_donk

    This looks a lot more like 76 than AA. Believe it or not. Just can't see murdera wanting to passively go to the flop 3-way with AA/KK/AK once there is a pre-flop RR and 6x is the only plausible hand I can envision where he donks 3 streets. Air would really be absurd since your hand is face-up as a premium hand that doesn't want to fold, be it AK, QQ or AA.

    I lol-fold unless I somehow have the 5th six here or of course KK and I guess AA.

    EDIT: And if he has 76 or some sort of 6 I don't see this as a bad line at all.
     
  11. Burying_Luck Burying_Luck is offline

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    Mar 2nd, 2010 (3/2/2010 6:39pm) in reply to DiscussIt

    Gotta be 67hh.

    Doesn't have to be, but this line makes perfect sense, more so than AA here. I just don't think (no i'm not a high stakes reg or think like one necessarily) that he plays AA KK or AK like this pre in the first level of a major. I would think he would be trying to build a pot pre with those hands and would never limp premiums UTG @ 10-20 with so much dead money and bad players that will punt stacks in this tournament.

    Not to mention he played this absolutely perfect if you have AK KK AA because he has your range so pegged down that he knows a river shove here is getting called such a high % of the time.
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    Mar 2nd, 2010 (3/2/2010 8:24pm) in reply to The Caretaker

    looks like 6d6h to me, good luck beating that
     
  13. trist23 trist23 is offline

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    Mar 2nd, 2010 (3/2/2010 9:23pm) in reply to The Caretaker

    I think that theres a pretty decent chance he has AA
     
  14. Steve Murkle Steve Murkle is offline

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    Mar 2nd, 2010 (3/2/2010 10:35pm) in reply to trist23

    It seems you all know this player as nitty. Does he never have 78ss here? is he not the kind of player to overshove bluff in these spots?
     
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