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WWYD if you tried to steal the blinds and then this happened

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  1. phunky420 phunky420 is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2010 (10/12/2010 4:09am)

    pokerstars Game #50916415912: Tournament #316609487, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (125/250) - 2010/10/10 22:44:27 ET
    Table '316609487 65' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: 123danuts (4277 in chips)
    Seat 2: itaotit (2269 in chips)
    Seat 3: greywolf666 (15067 in chips)
    Seat 4: delponte (20120 in chips)
    Seat 5: Detritusgal (15521 in chips)
    Seat 6: RMD1946 (8106 in chips)
    Seat 7: 100fuegos82 (19546 in chips)
    Seat 8: FloridaDP23 (14608 in chips)
    Seat 9: Mr. Hodi (695 in chips)
    123danuts: posts the ante 30
    itaotit: posts the ante 30
    greywolf666: posts the ante 30
    delponte: posts the ante 30
    Detritusgal: posts the ante 30
    RMD1946: posts the ante 30
    100fuegos82: posts the ante 30
    FloridaDP23: posts the ante 30
    Mr. Hodi: posts the ante 30
    Detritusgal: posts small blind 125
    RMD1946: posts big blind 250
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to delponte [Ac 9c]
    100fuegos82: folds
    FloridaDP23: folds
    Mr. Hodi: folds
    123danuts: folds
    itaotit: folds
    greywolf666: folds
    delponte: raises 500 to 750
    Detritusgal: calls 625
    RMD1946: calls 500
    *** FLOP *** [8s 3h Th]
    Detritusgal: checks
    RMD1946: bets 750
    delponte: raises 1750 to 2500
    Detritusgal: folds
    RMD1946: calls 1750
    *** TURN *** [8s 3h Th] [3d]
    RMD1946: checks
    delponte: bets 16840 and is all-in
    RMD1946: calls 4826 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (12014) returned to delponte
    *** RIVER *** [8s 3h Th 3d] [8c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    RMD1946: shows [Jc Jh] (two pair, Jacks and Eights)
    delponte: shows [Ac 9c] (two pair, Eights and Threes)
    RMD1946 collected 17172 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 17172 | Rake 0
    Board [8s 3h Th 3d 8c]
    Seat 1: 123danuts folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: itaotit folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: greywolf666 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: delponte (button) showed [Ac 9c] and lost with two pair, Eights and Threes
    Seat 5: Detritusgal (small blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: RMD1946 (big blind) showed [Jc Jh] and won (17172) with two pair, Jacks and Eights
    Seat 7: 100fuegos82 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: FloridaDP23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: Mr. Hodi folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    Preflop play: I think a raise here is good i see no problem with my play pre flop.
    Flop play: This is where i think i could improve my play the most. I like my play but i think there is room for other plays here... A fold may be wise here. Multi way pots are always dangerous and likely to have players who wont fold to a bluff. However, a fold sends a message to the table "call my preflop raises and ill play weak on the flop". Call is weak. I call and he will bet on the turn and i will be in the same spot i was on the flop (with no info). Even if he bets min, calling is weak. My raise: puts pressure on my opponent and tells me if he is committed to the hand (he was committed yet i raise all in on the turn? me dum)
    Turn Play: Betting all-in on the turn is the most obvious mistake i see. I could have checked it down and minimized losses.

    Thoughts?
  2. Nothingmaker Nothingmaker is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2010 (10/12/2010 4:12am) in reply to phunky420

    fold flop, psycho.
  3. s1nnr s1nnr is offline will stab you

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    Oct 12th, 2010 (10/12/2010 4:16am) in reply to Nothingmaker

    Level?
  4. thedylan thedylan is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2010 (10/12/2010 4:19am) in reply to s1nnr

    lol @ contradicting your own statements
    fold flop and raise less pre
     
  5. phunky420 phunky420 is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2010 (10/12/2010 4:42am) in reply to s1nnr

     
    Originally Posted by s1nnr View Post

    Level?


    NAPL Div 2 $1.10

    There is a weekly leader board that pays out cash to the top 50 so the field is
    Edited By: phunky420 Oct 12th, 2010 at 04:46 AM
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  6. bigwillie20 bigwillie20 is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2010 (10/12/2010 4:45am) in reply to phunky420

     
    Originally Posted by phunky420 View Post

    NAPL Rookie Div $0.11

    complete garbage field

    ironing
  7. SlayNL SlayNL is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2010 (10/12/2010 5:16am) in reply to bigwillie20

    I'm not completely against the steal attempt on the flop other than it was probably a bit too much
  8. Liquidiamnds Liquidiamnds is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2010 (10/12/2010 5:47am) in reply to SlayNL

    Raise less on flop, shut down on Turn imo...

    You can get the info you wanted without raising so much. When villain calls, you have to know you're beat as there are no draws.
    Edited By: Liquidiamnds Oct 12th, 2010 at 05:52 AM
  9. mdshack14 mdshack14 is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2010 (10/12/2010 6:01am) in reply to Liquidiamnds

    Leave the spew shove on the turn out of your game. It's a $1 tourney and the villain has shown that he has something. Absolutely no reason the bluff shove all in at this level when you will get called down by bottom pair. You're actually over thinking the situation. Even if you do give up after the flop no one is paying attention to how you're playing at this level.
     
  10. Exterminate U Exterminate U is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2010 (10/12/2010 6:05am) in reply to mdshack14

    this must be on more levels than inception
  11. Ace10Suted Ace10Suted is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2010 (10/12/2010 6:05am) in reply to mdshack14

     
    Originally Posted by mdshack14 View Post

    Leave the spew shove on the turn out of your game. It's a $1 tourney and the villain has shown that he has something. Absolutely no reason the bluff shove all in at this level when you will get called down by bottom pair. You're actually over thinking the situation. Even if you do give up after the flop no one is paying attention to how you're playing at this level.

    This....and I can assure you less than 1% of people in this tourney will EVER fold an overpair. even 88 on a 6 high flop. They will not fold. Just do the same thing when you have them crushed. Not with A high.
  12. gar2garvin gar2garvin is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2010 (10/12/2010 9:23am) in reply to Ace10Suted

    Repped kitchens well imo. Bad call from him
     
  13. phunky420 phunky420 is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2010 (10/12/2010 9:36am) in reply to Exterminate U

     
    Originally Posted by Exterminate U View Post

    this must be on more levels than inception

    you should see my post about the math of getting lucky in tournaments http://tiny.cc/5im9l
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  14. revieceD revieceD is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2010 (10/12/2010 10:10am) in reply to phunky420

    Being creative is fun and works in the right spot against strong players. Hovever this is a $1 MTT, just assume that the most players are weak until you're proven otherwise. You outmaneuver strong players and showdown the best hand against weak players, this is how you make money in poker. The only bluff you should ever make at this level is a continuation bet into 1 or 2 opponents, you can crush the micros doing this, just wait for the hands and bet them for value. It's good that you're thinking on higher levels but you just can't apply level 4 thinking when you're opponents are on level 1, be patient wait for big hands and force yourself to play in a boring mechanical way until you're at least upto $24 buy ins or you observe someone who is actually a thinking player.
  15. matze_widi matze_widi is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2010 (10/12/2010 10:36am) in reply to revieceD

    this is a $1 donkamanet how do u think any1 is every gonna fold the flop to a raise??
     
  16. clemsonrich clemsonrich is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2010 (10/12/2010 11:08am) in reply to matze_widi

    yeah ctfo bro. turtle race, sucka.

    and also ^^well said revieceD
     
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