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wwyd with quads?

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  1. Archie1106 Archie1106 is offline

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    Nov 8th, 2009 (11/8/2009 1:08pm)

    villian has been pretty lag and chasing every draw. he hasnt been to good from what ive seen. wanted to get it in while he was still chasing. anyone check the turn?

    Stage #1985390787 Tourney ID 4853922 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 60 - 2009-11-08 14:02:27 (ET)
    Table: 13 (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
    Seat 1 - OZORO (2,930 in chips)
    Seat 2 - OREO1987 (1,190 in chips)
    Seat 3 - READELEK (3,045 in chips)
    Seat 4 - ARCHIE1106 (3,725 in chips)
    Seat 5 - MATTY2001 (1,500 in chips)
    Seat 6 - ADCOCK29 (1,445 in chips)
    Seat 7 - THEWIZARD7 (2,410 in chips)
    Seat 8 - MR_LEE4 (1,635 in chips)
    Seat 9 - GENNADIY50 (11,855 in chips)
    READELEK - Posts small blind 30
    ARCHIE1106 - Posts big blind 60
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to ARCHIE1106 [4c 4s]
    MATTY2001 - Folds
    ADCOCK29 - Calls 60
    THEWIZARD7 - Folds
    MR_LEE4 - Folds
    GENNADIY50 - Calls 60
    OZORO - Calls 60
    OREO1987 - Folds
    READELEK - Folds
    ARCHIE1106 - Checks
    *** FLOP *** [4d 8c 10c]
    ARCHIE1106 - Bets 180
    ADCOCK29 - Calls 180
    GENNADIY50 - Raises 360 to 360
    OZORO - Folds
    ARCHIE1106 - Raises 810 to 990
    ADCOCK29 - Folds
    GENNADIY50 - Calls 630
    *** TURN *** [4d 8c 10c] [4h]
    ARCHIE1106 - Bets 1,225
    GENNADIY50 - Folds
    ARCHIE1106 - returned (1,225) : not called
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    ARCHIE1106 - Does not show
    ARCHIE1106 Collects 2,430 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total Pot(2,430)
    Board [4d 8c 10c 4h]
    Seat 1: OZORO Folded on the FLOP
    Seat 2: OREO1987 (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 3: READELEK (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 4: ARCHIE1106 (big blind) collected Total (2,430) HI:(2,430) [Does not show]
    Seat 5: MATTY2001 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 6: ADCOCK29 Folded on the FLOP
    Seat 7: THEWIZARD7 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 8: MR_LEE4 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 9: GENNADIY50 Folded on the TURN
  2. Chet22r Chet22r is offline

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    Nov 8th, 2009 (11/8/2009 1:13pm) in reply to Archie1106

    Not much different. There checking back all hands on the turn, that are not boats. Maybe bet slightly smaller than 1/2 pot.
  3. rainmanrcp rainmanrcp is offline

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    Nov 8th, 2009 (11/8/2009 1:13pm) in reply to Archie1106

    Definitely check the turn, if hes lag as you say he'll prob bet here and if not, giving him another card to complete a draw won't hurt.
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    Nov 8th, 2009 (11/8/2009 1:22pm) in reply to Archie1106

    check the turn forsure
  5. CzechItDown CzechItDown is offline

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    Nov 8th, 2009 (11/8/2009 1:27pm) in reply to Archie1106

    Yep, check turn like others said. He's probably on some type of draw there. Maybe a weakish ten but doubt it.
  6. chummin85 chummin85 is offline

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    Nov 8th, 2009 (11/8/2009 2:07pm) in reply to Archie1106

    This is a level for sure. lmao check turn
  7. JonBon-10 JonBon-10 is offline

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    Nov 8th, 2009 (11/8/2009 2:17pm) in reply to chummin85

    most probably check/fold, as 9c7c will spike the Jc on river
  8. mdshack14 mdshack14 is offline

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    Nov 8th, 2009 (11/8/2009 2:39pm) in reply to Archie1106

    why did you reraise the flop??? You scared of the clubs? I prob woulda just called the raise on the flop and checked to him on the turn hoping he'd get out of line. I'm sure you cost yourself some chips with the reraise on the flop then leading the turn.
     
  9. miko77q miko77q is offline

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    Nov 8th, 2009 (11/8/2009 3:01pm) in reply to Archie1106

    I would make a large all in bet on the turn. Your hand is vulnerable and you must protect it. If the 6c 7c 9c Jc or Qc comes you'd have to check maybe call a small bet on riv expecting to be beat and what happens if an 8 or T comes? did you think of that? You'd only have bottom quads and I don't see how you could put any more money in the pot.
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  10. Doim Doim is offline

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    Nov 8th, 2009 (11/8/2009 4:57pm) in reply to miko77q

     
    Originally Posted by miko77q View Post

    I would make a large all in bet on the turn. Your hand is vulnerable and you must protect it. If the 6c 7c 9c Jc or Qc comes you'd have to check maybe call a small bet on riv expecting to be beat and what happens if an 8 or T comes? did you think of that? You'd only have bottom quads and I don't see how you could put any more money in the pot.

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  11. Archie1106 Archie1106 is offline

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    Nov 8th, 2009 (11/8/2009 6:24pm) in reply to Doim

    maybe im the only one that has played with this species of donk. the kind that chases alot. obv i know i have the nuts. but what can he have, maybe a weak 10 or a draw. so why wouldnt i make him pay to chase his draw.i understand checking the turn but the i dont think ive seen any responses that say why that is the best option.
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  12. CzechItDown CzechItDown is offline

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    Nov 8th, 2009 (11/8/2009 7:09pm) in reply to Archie1106

     
    Originally Posted by Archie1106 View Post

    maybe im the only one that has played with this species of donk. the kind that chases alot. obv i know i have the nuts. but what can he have, maybe a weak 10 or a draw. so why wouldnt i make him pay to chase his draw.i understand checking the turn but the i dont think ive seen any responses that say why that is the best option.

    To allow for him to catch up in the hand and make a mistake on the river.
  13. leftygrove leftygrove is offline

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    Nov 8th, 2009 (11/8/2009 7:57pm) in reply to Archie1106

    You could bet really small (900 is around 1/3 pot) and induce him to chase his useless club/straight draw.

    I feel like betting large might be best against these type of players, who think that hands like J-9o or A-2cc is unfoldable here.

    In general I feel like the only way you can fuck this up is to check... your description makes him seem like the type of player that calls every draw and doesn't bother bluffing if he misses.
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