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WWYD ??? turn spot (in 10$ superstacked ftp)

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  1. Quicksy Quicksy is offline

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    Dec 29th, 2010 (12/29/2010 7:01pm)

    Super Stack $14K Guarantee (207916458), Table 47 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:43:11 ET - 2010/12/29
    Seat 1: STUCK-UP KID (6,005)
    Seat 2: BigCACTUS72 (6,460)
    Seat 3: PSY_Gekko (7,100)
    Seat 4: ZAVERT (2,566)
    Seat 5: srolle21 (6,000)
    Seat 6: quicksy (5,444)
    Seat 7: ftrck1 (5,950), is sitting out
    Seat 8: frekora (5,145)
    Seat 9: Sachs777 (2,390)
    frekora posts the small blind of 25
    Sachs777 posts the big blind of 50
    The button is in seat #7
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to quicksy [Ac Kc]
    STUCK-UP KID raises to 125
    ftrck1 has returned
    BigCACTUS72 folds
    PSY_Gekko folds
    ZAVERT calls 125
    srolle21 folds
    quicksy has 15 seconds left to act
    quicksy raises to 375
    ftrck1 folds
    frekora folds
    Sachs777 folds
    STUCK-UP KID calls 250
    ZAVERT calls 250
    *** FLOP *** [7h Tc 6c]
    STUCK-UP KID checks
    ZAVERT checks
    quicksy has 15 seconds left to act
    quicksy bets 775
    STUCK-UP KID calls 775
    ZAVERT has 15 seconds left to act
    ZAVERT calls 775
    *** TURN *** [7h Tc 6c] [4d]
    STUCK-UP KID has 15 seconds left to act
    STUCK-UP KID bets 1,525
    ZAVERT has 15 seconds left to act
    ZAVERT folds
    quicksy ..............
    Edited By: Quicksy Dec 29th, 2010 at 07:04 PM
  2. Popperhead Popperhead is offline

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    Dec 29th, 2010 (12/29/2010 7:06pm) in reply to Quicksy

    Call an asian girl named Irene and hope to suck out cause he's got you crumpled

    and why are you C/C flop
    Edited By: Popperhead Dec 29th, 2010 at 07:07 PM
  3. Quicksy Quicksy is offline

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    Dec 29th, 2010 (12/29/2010 7:39pm) in reply to Popperhead

    C C flop? you mean check call cause i did cbet with my flushdraw/overs
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  4. jm5under jm5under is offline

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    Dec 29th, 2010 (12/29/2010 8:20pm) in reply to Quicksy

    im def poppin it more pre- turn lead there is gross n strong a pretty good % of time...can't call, could jam but i lay this 75% of time here, too early to be messin around like this
  5. ijstshatonu ijstshatonu is offline

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    Dec 29th, 2010 (12/29/2010 8:27pm) in reply to jm5under

    This early in this tourney you should probably flat pre. Your options now are fold or shove. I think fold is prob best, but depending on my mood and how many tourneys I'm playing, I probably shove turn.
  6. Steve Murkle Steve Murkle is offline

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    Dec 29th, 2010 (12/29/2010 8:40pm) in reply to ijstshatonu

    who folds f draws and overs
     
  7. jm5under jm5under is offline

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    Dec 29th, 2010 (12/29/2010 8:57pm) in reply to ijstshatonu

     
    Originally Posted by ijstshatonu View Post

    This early in this tourney you should probably flat pre. Your options now are fold or shove. I think fold is prob best, but depending on my mood and how many tourneys I'm playing, I probably shove turn.

    def flat a % of time to balance range and concealing but im def 3ballin a lot more than flatting
  8. Quicksy Quicksy is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2010 (12/30/2010 11:52am) in reply to jm5under

    my reason to not be flatting here pre is i know people will flatcall my 3bet with way worse, i expect to get a call here like alot, also i am in position and in this 3betted pot its easyer to get in alot of chips if i flop good,

    so i expect a flatcall like 90% of the time and then take the flop ip.

    what i want to know; is it right to cbet this flop with all our equity or do we have to check it back .... cause of all the equity we have but we dont have a made hand yet, we have a huge hand here but against sets we are not doing great,
    ....im not sure if a cbet is correct here but i kind of do think so,

    next we are at the turn, we get this huge lead by vllian, kind of wierd bet,
    i decided to shove the turn, but im looking for this spots that are kind of like the ''not good to be aggressive here'' spots and lay them down instead of pumping it in,

    So, what u think of shoving, what are the +'s of that, what are the -'s of that, why would you shove, or why would you fold,
    what ranges we can kind of give this guy here, to help us think about what to do in this kind of spot,
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  9. iFish iFish is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2010 (12/30/2010 12:33pm) in reply to Quicksy

    Turn shove is bad. He's never folding and he's got better than one pair a lot of the time so your overs won't even win you the pot. You're jamming a naked flush draw when you started the hand with over 100 bb's.

    I don't mind 3 betting pre but this flop sucks for you because it crushes their 3 bet calling ranges.

    I might even check behind on the flop because we can get check-raised a lot and I don't want to be all in on this flop because of how early it is.
  10. cream626 cream626 is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2010 (12/30/2010 2:47pm) in reply to iFish

    525 pre or flat would be fine too
    Edited By: cream626 Dec 30th, 2010 at 02:48 PM
     
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