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  1. aniceboy aniceboy is offline

    India

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    Sep 3rd, 2011 (9/3/2011 6:23am)

    Trying to be a trapper....should have popped it pre :(, always wiser later....

    pokerstars Game #66935414348: Tournament #436011085, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (600/1200) - 2011/09/03 10:41:36 IST [2011/09/03 1:11:36 ET]
    Table '436011085 10' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: skela18 (39767 in chips)
    Seat 2: jpa_25 (15705 in chips)
    Seat 3: panayri (28917 in chips)
    Seat 4: rebzaneli (27604 in chips)
    Seat 5: aniceboy (20661 in chips)
    Seat 6: puan29 (92059 in chips)
    Seat 7: Chan KH (34038 in chips)
    Seat 8: OP_4001 (57022 in chips)
    Seat 9: da nuts 705 (27664 in chips)
    skela18: posts the ante 125
    jpa_25: posts the ante 125
    panayri: posts the ante 125
    rebzaneli: posts the ante 125
    aniceboy: posts the ante 125
    puan29: posts the ante 125
    Chan KH: posts the ante 125
    OP_4001: posts the ante 125
    da nuts 705: posts the ante 125
    skela18: posts small blind 600
    jpa_25: posts big blind 1200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to aniceboy [Kh Ks]
    panayri: raises 1380 to 2580
    rebzaneli: folds
    aniceboy: calls 2580
    puan29: calls 2580
    Chan KH: folds
    OP_4001: folds
    da nuts 705: folds
    skela18: folds
    jpa_25: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Ad 9d Ac]
    panayri: checks
    aniceboy: checks
    puan29: checks
    *** TURN *** [Ad 9d Ac] [8d]
    panayri: checks
    aniceboy: bets 3600
    puan29: calls 3600
    panayri: calls 3600
    *** RIVER *** [Ad 9d Ac 8d] [Ah]
    panayri: checks
    aniceboy: checks
    puan29: bets 25200
    panayri: folds
    aniceboy: ???
     
  2. MarkH MarkH is offline

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    Sep 3rd, 2011 (9/3/2011 8:17pm) in reply to aniceboy

    Call. His check on the 2 diamond flop with position suggests weakness or a mistake. With less than 20 BB I don't think you should fold the second nuts here. Not when there's so many hands he would make that river bet with that you beat. With the turn giving both straight draws and a single card flush draw he could either be bluffing into obvious weakness or value betting TT or a bare 9. JJ might be in there as well.

    You're right, smoothing pre flop was a mistake. It was a near min raise and you had 5 significantly bigger stacks left to act. Play the trap when you have better confidence you won't have any further limping to contend with. Another mistake was not betting the flop.
  3. A_Ewing_AK A_Ewing_AK is offline

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    Sep 3rd, 2011 (9/3/2011 10:32pm) in reply to MarkH

     
    Originally Posted by MarkH View Post

    Call. His check on the 2 diamond flop with position suggests weakness or a mistake. With less than 20 BB I don't think you should fold the second nuts here. Not when there's so many hands he would make that river bet with that you beat. With the turn giving both straight draws and a single card flush draw he could either be bluffing into obvious weakness or value betting TT or a bare 9. JJ might be in there as well.

    You're right, smoothing pre flop was a mistake. It was a near min raise and you had 5 significantly bigger stacks left to act. Play the trap when you have better confidence you won't have any further limping to contend with. Another mistake was not betting the flop.

    This pretty much sums it up. Also, that raise was from UTG so your odds of getting paid off on a shove/3bet is much higher than from MP or LP. No reason at all to slow play but, as played, there's no way you can toss the 2nd nuts with your stack and the way that villan played the hand.
    Edited By: A_Ewing_AK Sep 3rd, 2011 at 10:34 PM
  4. PeaceGotAces PeaceGotAces is online now

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    Canada

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    Sep 3rd, 2011 (9/3/2011 10:40pm) in reply to A_Ewing_AK

    i don't think flatting pre is a mistake. If you have an aggressive image i'd say clicking it back is better. But if i've been tight i'm flatting for sure. Post flop i don't think there's much you could do..i would be playing it the same way checking the flop betting the turn and calling the river. With 20bb there's not much you can do.

    If you bet the flop someone might do something to get you off your hand. But they're most likely just flatting then checking the turn. Checking the flop can't be that bad just as long as you don't check the turn.
  5. A_Ewing_AK A_Ewing_AK is offline

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    Sep 3rd, 2011 (9/3/2011 10:52pm) in reply to PeaceGotAces

    If he was on the button or cutoff, I would CONSIDER flatting... I don't think you can in this spot though because there's no guarantee you'll be able to play the hand in position and the more people in the pot, the less likely your pairs will hold. You just don't know what's going to happen behind you.

    Also, your losing lots of value flatting imo. 20bb's is beginning to get a bit on the light side and you don't have all day to accumulate chips
    Edited By: A_Ewing_AK Sep 3rd, 2011 at 10:57 PM
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