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  1. Maits10 Maits10 is offline

    Scottsdale, AZ
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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 7:44am)

    What do I do here... Is the buyin relevant here?

    Table 87 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em
    Seat 1: Jobsplus (3,770)
    Seat 2: Maits10 (4,510)
    Seat 3: wisker (14,512)
    Seat 4: Big Chick (4,070)
    Seat 5: Kamberi (7,024)
    Seat 6: timunim (1,290)
    Seat 7: FantasyFlush (3,070)
    Seat 8: cape breton (1,380)
    Seat 9: pepe120873 (6,672)
    Maits10 posts the small blind of 40
    wisker posts the big blind of 80
    The button is in seat #1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Maits10 [Qc Ks]
    Big Chick folds
    Kamberi calls 80
    timunim folds
    FantasyFlush folds
    cape breton folds
    pepe120873 has 8 seconds left to act
    pepe120873 folds
    Jobsplus folds
    Maits10 calls 40
    wisker checks
    *** FLOP *** [Qh Jh Kd]
    Maits10 checks
    wisker bets 160
    Kamberi folds
    Maits10 calls 160
    *** TURN *** [Qh Jh Kd] [3s]
    Maits10 checks
    wisker bets 320
    Maits10 has 15 seconds left to act
    Maits10 raises to 825
    wisker raises to 14,272, and is all in
  2. bonflizubi bonflizubi is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 9:18am) in reply to Maits10

    yes- the buyin is definitely needed here as is the tournament- and how did he get all those chips?
     
  3. MYBLUEDOG MYBLUEDOG is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 9:35am) in reply to bonflizubi

    Any time you re-open the betting; (raise); you should know what you're going to do before you make the play.

    It's a limp pot so ranges could be almost anything.

    Has the big stack shown down any one pair hands in this kind of situation?

    Top-2 pair is a very big hand.
  4. CJDeman CJDeman is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 9:51am) in reply to MYBLUEDOG

    In the type of tournaments I play (usually c. $33-$55 buy in) I am not folding this. Against strong players in a high buy in it could be a fold. If this is a rebuy I doubt this is ever a fold.
     
  5. elimherr elimherr is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 10:32am) in reply to CJDeman

    call you are ahead
     
  6. Deoxyribo Deoxyribo is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 10:40am) in reply to elimherr

    Nvm misread HH
    I'd call and hope he doesn't have a straight
    Edited By: Deoxyribo Oct 2nd, 2010 at 10:41 AM
     
  7. Garp Garp is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 4:04pm) in reply to Deoxyribo

    A year ago I insta-call this... after busting to straights and sets way too often... I now would fold this hand and keep my eye on opponent going forward. He HAS to put you on tptk or two pair, maybe a straight, so he's expecting you to call, which means he has the nuts. This overshove is a value bet.
  8. Nothingmaker Nothingmaker is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 4:07pm) in reply to Garp

    Definitely need more info here.

    <$11 I think I turbo call. Rebuy also. Info on opponent would be helpful too.
  9. eDaN eDaN is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 4:51pm) in reply to Nothingmaker

    I think its key, (in every spot) to think one step ahead, did you think about him 4betting BEFORE you were 3betting?
    Jennifear pointed this out very good on another hand.

    On a sidenote, with no reads I'd call here, too many KThh-ish stuff out there.
  10. Maits10 Maits10 is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 6:50pm) in reply to eDaN

    It's an $11 rush MTT, so no reads.
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  11. eDaN eDaN is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 7:00pm) in reply to Maits10

    so what did he have? AT? im asuming he had you beat on the turn otherwise you wouldn't have posted
  12. Bigchip79 Bigchip79 is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 8:47pm) in reply to eDaN

    check/call . I fold lol. Calling is ehhhhh, but he might show up with KJ JQ KQ a bunch here.
  13. CP_MagiciaN CP_MagiciaN is offline

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    Oct 3rd, 2010 (10/3/2010 12:47am) in reply to Bigchip79

    Lead flop. Don't stop betting unless board runs out bad. As played, I don't fold cuz I assume he has a lot of combo draws pairs/draws/lower 2P he plays this way. And let's face facts, you gots outs. Sorry he had 9T.
    Edited By: CP_MagiciaN Oct 3rd, 2010 at 12:50 AM
     
  14. uga7211 uga7211 is offline

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    Oct 4th, 2010 (10/4/2010 10:19pm) in reply to CP_MagiciaN

    the buy in is only relevant to the player.. if your playing proper br mgmt the buy in level will only signify the types of players entering the tourney.. also knowing meta game info is important when calculating variables and putting opponents on a range.. that being said without knowing any of the above info.. pf im raising into the bb so that I can have a better feel for how strong or weak their range might be.. after the flop im c betting my entire range on that board esp since its such a coordinated board.. all this being said not sure what the opponent is going to get into since I feel the hand was played incorrectly.. but the hand being played the was it was I am calling off to his shove.. still a lot of draws.. only 3 hands that beat you realistically AT, 9T, and a turned set of 33s.. all else being considered and thats its a rush donkament (which Im almost certain its a rigged setup imo) that its a call .. gl to you on the tables!
     
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