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  1. ZEKAgrinder ZEKAgrinder is offline

    Cookeville, TN
    United States

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    Dec 17th, 2007 (12/17/2007 10:33pm)

    Call or fold here vs player who seems solid but may be tilting?

    Seat 1: Backi65 (27491 in chips)
    Seat 2: dered-ruM (17572 in chips)
    Seat 3: KA@tntech (87662 in chips)
    Seat 5: take chips15 (27224 in chips)
    Seat 6: rzepa (36274 in chips)
    Seat 7: jacob_BU (20310 in chips)
    Seat 8: Geomoni (19914 in chips)
    Seat 9: CrazyLefty32 (8256 in chips)
    Backi65: posts the ante 150
    dered-ruM: posts the ante 150
    KA@tntech: posts the ante 150
    take chips15: posts the ante 150
    rzepa: posts the ante 150
    jacob_BU: posts the ante 150
    Geomoni: posts the ante 150
    CrazyLefty32: posts the ante 150
    take chips15: posts small blind 800
    rzepa: posts big blind 1600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to KA@tntech [9s 9h]
    jacob_BU: folds
    Geomoni: folds
    CrazyLefty32: folds
    Backi65: folds
    dered-ruM: folds
    KA@tntech: raises 2600 to 4200
    take chips15: folds
    rzepa: raises 31924 to 36124 and is all-in
     
  2. losfer losfer is offline

    Perry, MI
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    Dec 18th, 2007 (12/18/2007 6:36am) in reply to ZEKAgrinder

    I'm actually not sure, but I'm going to through this out there just to get a conversation going.

    I think this is so opponent dependant that it's hard to comment on. Have you been stealing a lot? Has this guy been re-stealing a lot?

    Given that the only read is that this guy is that he's tight but might be tilting, I think you should fold and try to get your money in in a better spot. If you're sure he is tilting, then calling looks better.
  3. saukendar saukendar is offline

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    Dec 18th, 2007 (12/18/2007 11:10am) in reply to ZEKAgrinder

    This looks like kind of a tough spot. Given that it folded to the button who raised, he could be pushing back with a wide variety of cards and you should really have decided what you would do here before you raised. As played I think you are mostly racing with some air and some over PR in the mix and you need to fold.

    If you where going to call a push you should have just pushed yourself.

    my 2 cents
  4. losfer losfer is offline

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    Dec 18th, 2007 (12/18/2007 11:42am) in reply to saukendar

    You are dead on with your "If you where going to call a push you should have just pushed yourself" comment.
  5. theoldman999 theoldman999 is offline

    Ecorse, MI
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    Dec 19th, 2007 (12/19/2007 6:08pm) in reply to ZEKAgrinder

    J, as the hand looks now on paper there is not enough info to say either way. From the surface I would say that this is one of those "you be me" situations where if you call and are wrong you become him as far as stacks go. Your in good control of the table now with your stack, find another place to race...but if the same situation happened again and he shoved I would look his ass up quick. I always give the benefit of the doubt once.

    The comment of shoving first is on target I think, 99 vs. random BB is nice odds in your favor. Holla at me later.
  6. Shad Shad is offline

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    Dec 19th, 2007 (12/19/2007 8:26pm) in reply to ZEKAgrinder

    If I think the player is tilting then he could have anything from 67 off to AA so if your a gambler, your in a good spot with your chip stack even if you do lose the hand.

    I think I fold this one and see if a better spot arises.
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