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  1. mr_alterboy mr_alterboy is offline

    Studio City, CA
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    Apr 1st, 2008 (4/1/2008 4:43pm)

    I can normally let things go but, this hand has been bugging me. I think it's bugging me because I should have taken more time to think it out like I normally do. It probably would have some to the same conclusion, but I want your thoughts.

    I have a pretty tight image. I had been fairly successful with all my bluffs and have won every showdown up to this point. The rest of the table has been loose/passive and giving me respect. The villain had only been at the table for about 5 hands. He had been pretty active, but I had not played a hand with him yet.

    pokerstars Game #16397087206: Tournament #82888744, $1.00+$0.10 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/03/31 - 20:13:00 (ET)
    Table '82888744 192' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: Cut_Thoart (5335 in chips)
    Seat 2: m_tommy500 (10355 in chips)
    Seat 3: fayehamilton (3010 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 4: kepper5 (4910 in chips)
    Seat 5: bonjathon (7200 in chips)
    Seat 6: BogieOne (6060 in chips)
    Seat 7: CJGiant4215 (1990 in chips)
    Seat 8: nuanced (3375 in chips)
    Seat 9: mr_alterboy (3900 in chips)
    Cut_Thoart: posts small blind 75
    m_tommy500: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to mr_alterboy [Js Kc]
    fayehamilton: folds
    kepper5: folds
    bonjathon: folds
    BogieOne: calls 150
    CJGiant4215: folds
    nuanced: folds
    mr_alterboy: raises 450 to 600
    Cut_Thoart: folds
    m_tommy500: folds
    BogieOne: calls 450
    *** FLOP *** [6h Tc Kh]

    I don't normally play this hand, but I thought I was pretty sure I could steal the button. I put him on 2 big cards here. He could also have any medium to big pocket pair. From past hands I've seen him play though, I think he has AX.


    BogieOne: bets 300
    mr_alterboy: raises 700 to 1000
    BogieOne: calls 700

    At this point I'm sure he's not on a draw. As it's getting expensive to play a draw. I think he has a KX here. I'm 80% sure I have him out kicked.

    I'll post the rest after I get a few responses. Is my thinking correct or am I just not thinking correctly at all? Thanks
  2. sunkisted sunkisted is offline

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    Apr 1st, 2008 (4/1/2008 6:15pm) in reply to mr_alterboy

    theres no reason to 3b there. you have no idea where you are now. right play is to fold pre
  3. Dazbog Dazbog is offline

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    Apr 1st, 2008 (4/1/2008 7:23pm) in reply to mr_alterboy

    Well, you're already on the button, so with new player limping in, he could have anything really. Possible post-flop bully? And KJo ain't the greatest hand, even on the button. If you're going to play it this early, (I wouldn't) limp in if you want to take a shot at the new guy. Otherwise, fold pre. Best option, really. But you're in the hand so, look at that draw heavy board. I'm probably going to fold to his bet, and wait to see what mistakes he will make later with other hands. Let someone else take a stand against him. Fold pre.
  4. Nomarfar Nomarfar is offline

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    Apr 2nd, 2008 (4/2/2008 5:11pm) in reply to mr_alterboy

    It's been said before, but a fold pre-flop seems like the best move. I'd just like to know exactly HOW he's been "pretty active"? Limping pre-flop? or betting pre-flop? I could be wrong, but I try to avoid playing hands like KJos against "active players" because most of the time you don't know where you are. Better to wait till a better spot, with straight and flush draws out there.
  5. cbrianm cbrianm is offline

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    Apr 3rd, 2008 (4/3/2008 8:27am) in reply to mr_alterboy

    Usually fold pre, but if you just had a feeling to play it then go ahead. However, once you hit the K in this situation, I would just keep the pot small. I wouldn't feel comfortable enough to accurately put him on a range, so I wouldn't know if I wanted to push him off the flush or use the flush board to bluff him off his better Kx.
  6. wr135 wr135 is offline

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    Apr 7th, 2008 (4/7/2008 5:09am) in reply to mr_alterboy

    well as the hand is played so far. i think your ahead. usually low limit players will jam a pot when they hit it big so by his just call of your raise. looks like a draw he's almost 3 to 1 for a draw not quite there but close. depending on turn i'm probably shoving this
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