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  1. TheEngineer (or anyone else), i am under the impression you are from Kentucky so you probly have a better idea than me...

    If internet poker is eventually left up to the states to decide, what do you think the chances are of it being legal here in the Bluegrass state?
  2. Yes, I live in Kentucky. Internet poker is legal to play in KY now, like in most states (it's not legal to play online next door in Indiana, though).

    Getting instate-only licensed online poker sites could be uphill, I think, but it's one we should try to get. Gov.-elect Beshear ran on limited gaming. PPA did have a good campaign to put out the word to inform people of Gov. Fletcher's rabid (election-year) anti-gaming stance, so we do have some cred when we discuss our position with Beshear. I hope all the KY folks here will write to Beshear to ask him to include online poker in his gaming referendum.

    On a related matter, I want to ensure that we don't end up like Mass., where their governor submitted a casino legalization bill that criminalizes online poker playing. PPA caught it in time to mobilize an effort against it, but we're now warned that B&M casinos will try to get this type of language in the bills.
     
  3. <SPAN>Here's the PPA press release from Sept:

    For Immediate Release
    Contact: Rich Muny, PPA KY State Director
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    <SPAN>September 17, 2007
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    <SPAN><SPAN>KY@pokerplayersalliance.org</SPAN></SPAN>

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    <SPAN>PPA Launches Statewide Effort to Fight for Legal Poker in Kentucky</SPAN>

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    <SPAN>In response to Governor Ernie Fletchers election-year change of heart with regard to allowing Kentuckians to vote on gaming in the commonwealth, the Kentucky members of the 760,000-member Poker Players Alliance have kicked off an advocacy campaign in support of poker in the commonwealth.</SPAN>

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    <SPAN>Poker Players Alliance Kentucky State Director Rich Muny, of Union, KY, announced today that the organization has initiated a statewide effort to encourage all Kentucky poker players to contact the governor and other local and state politicians to express strong opposition to the governors anti-poker efforts and warns that Kentucky PPA members will take the same sentiment to the polls in November. Several hundred emails have already been sent to the governor, and many more are forthcoming.</SPAN>

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    <SPAN>Mr. Muny stated, Governor Fletcher is running not on his achievements of the past four years, but on a campaign of distraction. In the process, Fletcher has demonized the good folks who enjoy the game of poker. Indiana has casinos with card rooms, built right on Kentuckys borders, as do other states. Kentucky deserves to keep this revenue in our own state for the benefit of our own citizens. Additionally, our citizens deserve the freedom to choose to play a hand of poker.</SPAN>

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    <SPAN>Muny urges Kentucky PPA members and poker enthusiasts to contact Governor Fletcher at (502) 607-8683, or via email at <SPAN>contact@erniefletcher.com</SPAN>. Tell him youll vote for your freedom and for Kentucky. </SPAN>

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    <SPAN>The Poker Players Alliance (www.pokerplayersalliance.org) is a nonprofit membership organization comprised of poker players and enthusiasts from around the United States who have joined together to speak with one voice to promote the game, ensure its integrity, and, most importantly, to protect poker players rights. The PPA seeks to guarantee players secure, safe, and regulated places to play. They promote poker with the intent to keep this recreational activity free from unreasonable government intervention.</SPAN>
     
  4. My letter to Beshear:

    August 6, 2007

    Mr. Steve Beshear
    P.O. Box 4227
    Frankfort, KY 40604

    Dear Mr. Beshear:

    I am writing to thank you for your strong advocacy of casino gambling for Kentucky. I feel very strongly that we should be allowed to make our own decisions on how to spend our own money. As such, I support your candidacy for governor. Please accept my attached campaign contribution.

    I personally enjoy playing a little poker after work, either online or at one of the bricks-and-mortar casinos in Indiana (where it seems plenty of the vehicles have Kentucky license plates). I happen to be skilled enough at the game to win significantly more than I lose, but thats not really the point. Poker is an enjoyable game of skill, much as golfing or fishing. In fact, poker is one of the great American pastimes. Presidents, generals, Supreme Court Justices, members of Congress and average Americans have enjoyed the game for more than 150 years. Its an honorable game.

    Out of love for freedom, immediately after last years Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act passed I started advocating for my rights as a poker enthusiast on various web sites. Posting as TheEngineer, many of my fellow Internet poker players and I have made some good progress. One step I took was to develop and post a congressional voting guide for poker players and others who value freedom at several websites, such as www.eog.com/news/industry.aspx?id=28374. Its gotten quite popular, and I plan to expand this as much as possible over the next year. In fact, if you Google the phrase Geoff Davis gambling, youll see my guide at positions #1, #5, #9, and #10. Results are similar for almost all 438 congressmen/delegates, so it does have decent readership already. I attached a copy of the July 31, 2007 edition.

    Ill add your race to the August 31 edition of the guide. As Gov. Ernie Fletcher has chosen to campaign on restricting our freedoms to appeal to poker prohibitionists, I will award him an F for his efforts while endorsing your candidacy. Keep up the good work! I hope youll consider legislation favorable to Internet gaming as you review various gaming options.

    Sincerely,
     
  5. My letter to Fletcher:

    August 9, 2007

    Governor Ernie Fletcher
    700 Capital Avenue Suite 100
    Frankfort, KY 40601

    Dear Governor Fletcher:

    I am writing in regards to your reelection campaign. I am a lifelong conservative Republican pro-life and pro-Second Amendment. However, I am also pro-limited government. As such, I am very dismayed by your recent embrace of a nanny state for the good people of Kentucky. In fact, your entire reelection campaign is seemingly based only on advocacy of a position that people cannot be trusted to make their own decisions regarding playing poker or other casino games (or to even vote on the issue). Do you really believe casinos cause crime, as if its the casinos fault and not the criminals? Quite frankly, your claims that casinos cause crime reminds me of something Sarah Brady would say about guns! Given that you feel this way, I find it difficult to trust you with my other freedoms.

    I realize you had to come up with something on which to campaign, and that could not have been an easy task for you this year. Still, couldnt you find something Republican on which to campaign? It seems you and Sen. McConnell think the majority of Kentuckians want the state government to protect them from themselves (and McConnell apparently feels the federal government needs to police the Internet to keep people from playing poker, like in Iran and China). Sorry, but if you continue on this path, I think youll find on Election Day that this is an erroneous assumption. I urge you to at least gather some polling data, because it may just be a situation where you have too small a circle of friends who dont realize that people like to play poker and games of chance for entertainment and relaxation, and that only a very small percentage of players develop issues.

    As a result of the scandals of your administration, your embrace of a nanny state, your scapegoating of the many good people in Kentucky who enjoy an occasional game of poker, and the simply fact that the Republican party could use some housecleaning to restore us to being a party of small government (and you have an off-year election that will set the tone for the 2008 elections) unless you radically change course I plan to vote for Steve Beshear.

    Sincerely,
     
  6. My election night letter to Fletcher:

    November 6, 2007

    Governor Ernie Fletcher
    700 Capital Avenue Suite 100
    Frankfort, KY 40601

    Dear Governor Fletcher:

    I am a lifelong conservative Republican who voted for you in 2003. This election, however, I voted for Steve Beshear. Many aspects of your governorship dismayed me, but the issue with which I disagreed with you most was your opposition to a vote on casino gaming. As a proud poker player, I was offended by your position regarding gaming in the commonwealth, particularly your idea that people need the state government to protect them from themselves.

    It looks like you will lose todayin a landslide, no less. Contrary to what you were told by the big government social conservatives who wish to legislate their ideas of morality, your anti-gaming stance did not buy you votes. In fact, your failure to close the gap between you and Mr. Beshear in the final days of the campaign leads one to conclude that your position on gaming cost you the votes of many who would have supported you otherwise while gaining you few, if any, votes.

    This did not have to happen. Many of my fellow poker players and I wrote to you to let you know how we felt. We told you that your embrace of a nanny state, your scapegoating of the many good people in Kentucky who enjoy an occasional game of poker, and the simple fact that the Republican party could use some housecleaning to restore us to being a party of small government would cost you our votes. I wish you had reversed course at that time, as Sen. Bunning and thousands of other Kentuckians advised you to do.

    If you do choose to return to politics sometime in the future, I hope you will embrace freedom and liberty over government nanny-statism. I dont need Frankfort to tell me when and where I can play poker.

    I wish you the best with your future endeavors.

    Sincerely,
     
  7. November 5, 2007

    Dear Mr. Beshear:

    First of all, I'd like to congratulate you a day in advance on your election as Kentucky's next governor. As the Poker Players Alliance Kentucky State Director, I took a particular interest in this race. Our organization sent out informational communications to our 9,000 Kentucky members alerting them to the issues of this race and how they pertain to poker players. Joseph Gerth wrote of our efforts in his Louisville Courier-Journal article today. Additionally, I personally (as a private citizen, independent of the PPA) contributed to your campaign, as I support your stand relative to poker in the commonwealth.

    I do have a request. Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick recently proposed a bill legalizing casino gaming in his state. Unfortunately, his bill includes language that prohibits all Internet gaming, including even poker. This language was apparently inserted to limit competition. Needless to say, the PPA and the poker players of Mass. strongly oppose this language. I hope this will not be attempted in Kentucky, but as there is some possibility that it will, I wish to bring this concern to your attention.

    Internet gaming (with the exception of sports betting) is legal in Kentucky. Folks voting for you are clearly not voting for a ban on Internet poker (those folks are voting for Fletcher). Will you ensure that your referendum legalizing casino gaming in the commonwealth does not make Internet poker illegal?

    Thanks for your consideration.

    Sincerely,

    [me]

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    <SPAN class=EC_Apple-style-span><SPAN>For Immediate Release </SPAN>

    <SPAN>October 31, 2007</SPAN>

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    <SPAN>Contacts: </SPAN><SPAN>Rich Muny, PPA KY State Director
    <SPAN>KY@pokerplayersalliance.org</SPAN>
    <SPAN>John Pappas, PPA National Executive Director (202) 729-4335</SPAN> </SPAN>


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    <SPAN>PPA Fighting for Legal Poker Rooms in Kentucky</SPAN>

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    <SPAN>(October 31, 2007 Union, KY)<SPAN> </SPAN>Governor Ernie Fletchers election-year decision to oppose a statewide referendum on the issue of casino gaming in the commonwealth has drawn the ire of the states poker players, as Fletchers position includes poker rooms.<SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN>

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    <SPAN>In September, the Kentucky State Chapter of the Poker Players Alliance (PPA) announced it was mounting a statewide grassroots advocacy campaign in support of poker in Kentucky.<SPAN> </SPAN>Since then, over one thousand pro-poker letters and phone calls from concerned poker players have flooded the offices of Fletcher and state representatives.</SPAN>

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    <SPAN>When asked for a comment on the success of the PPA effort, PPA Kentucky State Director Rich Muny today stated that PPAs efforts in the state exceeded all expectations, and he warned that Kentucky PPA members will take their pro-poker sentiments to the polls next Tuesday. Muny stated, Governor Fletcher is running not on his achievements of the past four years, but on a campaign of distraction. In the process, Fletcher has demonized the good folks who enjoy the game of poker. Indiana has card rooms built right on Kentuckys borders, as do other states. Kentucky deserves to keep this revenue in our own state for the benefit of our own citizens. Additionally, our citizens deserve the freedom to choose to play a hand of poker.</SPAN>

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    <SPAN>Muny urges all Kentucky poker enthusiasts to contact Governor Fletcher at (502) 607-8683, or via email at <SPAN>contact@erniefletcher.com</SPAN>.<SPAN> </SPAN>He says, tell him youll vote for your freedom and for Kentucky. </SPAN>

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    <SPAN>The Poker Players Alliance (http://<i><a href="http://www.pokerp...ce.org</a></i>) is a nonprofit membership organization comprised of over 800,000 poker players and enthusiasts from around the United States who have joined together to speak with one voice to promote the game, ensure its integrity, and, most importantly, to protect poker players rights. The PPA seeks to guarantee players secure, safe, and regulated places to play. They promote poker with the intent to keep this recreational activity free from unreasonable government intervention. </SPAN>
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  8. Great stuff TE. The amount of work youre putting into all of this is greatly appreciated. Ive sent letters to our govt officials here in Kentucky and i urge everyone else to do the same.

    Thanks
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  9. Thanks! I appreciate your letter writing as well, as it helps protect my right to play. I hope everyone here will do their part.

    Any chance you can post a letter of yours here to encourage others?
     
  10. I sent letters prepared by the PPA last week with links provided here in this forum. And i sent similar ones months ago to Beshear and Fletcher.

    But now that you mention it, i think it would be best to write a personal letter as well.
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