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  1. kmil420 kmil420 is offline

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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:06pm) in reply to kmil420

    24,000 Online Poker Players Affected by Federal Funds Seizure

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/APNews...set=&ccode=

    <h1>APNewsBreak: Group says poker winnings are frozen</h1> <h2>APNewsBreak: Group says government has frozen online poker players' winnings </h2>
    WASHINGTON (AP) -- An advocacy group for online poker says the federal government has frozen the accounts of payment processors that handle the winnings of thousands of online poker players.

    The Poker Players Alliance says those winnings are worth upward of $30 million.

    The alliance tells The Associated Press that the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York told three banks to freeze the accounts.

    A document obtained by the AP shows that a judge in the district issued a seizure warrant last week for an account at a Wells Fargo bank in San Francisco.

    The Justice Department has long maintained that Internet gambling is illegal, a view that the poker group challenges.
  2. Appst08 Appst08 is online now

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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:10pm) in reply to kmil420

    oh my
     
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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:11pm) in reply to Appst08

    this country is going to hell in a hand basket.......i hate tree huggers
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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:15pm) in reply to kmil420

    Not much detail. Disconcerting nonetheless.
  5. Reoknows Reoknows is offline

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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:16pm) in reply to bobhica_10

    well that sucks
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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:16pm) in reply to bobhica_10

    Well, isn't that nice.

    *sigh*
  7. ImaBustYou ImaBustYou is offline

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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:16pm) in reply to bobhica_10

    getting my popcorn ready
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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:17pm) in reply to ImaBustYou

    This is bad
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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:18pm) in reply to King Balky

    lollllllll welcome to america
  10. Appst08 Appst08 is online now

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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:19pm) in reply to King Balky

    *grabs computer and heads to nearest home game to get cash for xfers immed.

    suggest u all do the same b4 these non p5's 2+2 readers find out
     
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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:20pm) in reply to kmil420

    Thank god, keep that money out of the economy.
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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:21pm) in reply to Mephisto

     
    Originally Posted by Mephisto View Post

    Thank god, keep that money out of the economy.

    seriously
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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:23pm) in reply to Etrain99

    yumyum life in the third world
     
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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:27pm) in reply to funnygut

    $5 says my ex wife is behind this fiasco
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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:28pm) in reply to kmil420

    How is the weather in canada I plan on moving there REALLY SOON.
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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:29pm) in reply to bobhica_10

     
    Originally Posted by bobhica_10 View Post

    this country is going to hell in a hand basket.......i hate tree huggers

    you got it backwards you &%*(*(....lmfao
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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:30pm) in reply to funnygut

    I thought Obama was a poker player!!!!
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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:30pm) in reply to zenful

    "Land of the Free" can suck my dick.
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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:32pm) in reply to kmil420

    This is fucking bullshit, with all the fucking problems in the USA today, this some how is a big enough "problem" for all the dick head legistlators in the world. Cunt monkeys.
    643 
  20. KASHAT0812 KASHAT0812 is offline

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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:33pm) in reply to shanetrain22

    LORD HAVE MERCY
  21. TheEngineer TheEngineer is offline Rich Muny - PPA Board VP

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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:34pm) in reply to shanetrain22

    http://pokerplayersalliance.org/forums/topic/524

    -------------------------------

    <span>NEWS RELEASE</span>

    <span>For Immediate Distribution </span><span><span> </span><span> </span>Contact:<span> </span><span> </span></span><span>Shannon Flaherty</span>

    <span>sflaherty@theheraldgroup.com</span>

    <span>(202) 347-6762</span>

    <span>PPA Statement on Southern District of NY Action Against Online Poker Players</span>

    <span><span>Letter Sent to Assistant US Attorney Requesting Presence at Future Hearings</span></span>

    <span><span> </span></span>

    <span><span><span>WASHINGTON, DC (June 9, 2009) The Poker Players Alliance (PPA), the leading poker grassroots advocacy group with more than one million members nationwide, today released the following statement by PPA Chairman Alfonse DAmato on questionable actions taken by a federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York to freeze payment processor accounts containing more than $30 million in poker players deposits and payouts. </span></span></span>

    <span><span><span> </span></span></span>

    <span><span><span>The PPA also sent a letter to the Assistant United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York asking for an opportunity to be heard in any future warrant hearings.<span> </span>The letter is available at </span></span></span><span><span><span>www.pokerplayersalliance.org</span></span></span> <span><span><span>.</span></span></span>

    <span><span><span> </span></span></span>

    <span><span><span>The PPA is disappointed that this unprecedented action has been commenced against law abiding poker players.<span> </span>The payment processor funds frozen by the Southern District of New York belong to individual poker players not operators of poker websites and do not represent the proceeds of any gambling activity, much less illegal gambling activity.<span> </span>This money should be immediately released by the Southern District to ensure that player payouts are not further disrupted.<span> </span>To that end, the PPA is coordinating a legal strategy to appropriately protect PPA members who are impacted by the Southern Districts actions.<span> </span>Further, the PPA has contacted the affected poker websites and has been informed that deposit and payout issues of players are being addressed and will be fully satisfied."<span> </span></span></span></span>

    <span><span><span> </span></span></span>

    <span><span><span>There are many legal issues that question the merit of the Southern Districts actions.<span> </span>Of greatest concern is that, in at least two cases, these actions were taken without first obtaining a seizure warrant.<span> </span>Seizure of money without judicial authority and litigation tactics inconsistent with previously stated Department of Justice policy appear to be the type of conduct that the Department has recently committed to change.<span> </span>Accordingly, the PPA on June 8<sup>th</sup> wrote to the prosecutor in charge of the matter and raised appropriate challenges and constitutional concerns with the actions taken to date.</span></span></span>

    <span><span><span> </span></span></span>

    <span><span><span>We are also concerned that the Southern District has selectively taken action against online poker when the current law regarding the activity is far from clear, and policies from various levels of government are inconsistent at best. In fact, no federal or state court has ever found a payment processor or a player accessing an Internet poker site to have violated the federal laws alleged by the Southern District in this case.</span></span></span>

    <span><span><span> </span></span></span>

    <span><span><span>For more than three years the PPA has advocated for a clear </span></span></span><st1:country-region><span><span><span>US</span></span></span></st1:country-region><span><span><span> policy, established through licensing and regulating skill games like peer-to-peer Internet poker.<span> </span>The PPA remains committed to legislation that creates a clear regulatory framework and we will continue to pursue every legal course available to ensure that in this instance poker players funds are not seized and their right to play online poker is protected.</span></span></span>

    <span><span><span><span> </span></span></span></span>

    <span>About The Poker Players </span><span>Alliance</span>

    <span>The Poker Players Alliance (www.pokerplayersalliance.org)<span> </span>is a nonprofit membership organization comprised of over 1,000,000 online and offline poker players and enthusiasts from around the United States who have joined together to speak with one voice to promote the game and to protect poker players rights.</span>
     
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  22. Simm0nS777 Simm0nS777 is offline

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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:34pm) in reply to shanetrain22

    already a thread at the very top of the page
     
  23. shanetrain22 shanetrain22 is offline

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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:35pm) in reply to kmil420

    I just knew this downswing would turn out to be a blessing in disguise!!
     1
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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:36pm) in reply to kmil420

    such fcking bullshit. freedom my ass
     
  25. monteaz monteaz is offline

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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:36pm) in reply to jtj03

    The payment processor where I got my stars check from is part of this. Stars won't really give me a straight answer. GG online poker
    Looking into moving or terrorist action.
  26. TheEngineer TheEngineer is offline Rich Muny - PPA Board VP

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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:38pm) in reply to Simm0nS777

     
    Originally Posted by mimmons775 View Post

    already a thread at the very top of the page

    Thanks. I didn't see it. I just merged mine to it.
     
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  27. Donegal Rules Donegal Rules is offline

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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:41pm) in reply to kmil420

    Looks like poker in the u.s is going back to the stone age.
  28. TheEngineer TheEngineer is offline Rich Muny - PPA Board VP

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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:42pm) in reply to Donegal Rules

     
    Originally Posted by Donegal Rules View Post

    Looks like poker in the u.s is going back to the stone age.

    PPA will stand strong here. We have a nice record to date of winning in courts, and we're not planning to start losing now!
     
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  29. KASHAT0812 KASHAT0812 is offline

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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:42pm) in reply to Donegal Rules

    I HAVE 3K IN THERE FROM CASH GAMES, R U TELLING ME I WONT EVER C MY MONEY? I PLAY ON UB AND HAVENT HEARD N E THING
  30. TheEngineer TheEngineer is offline Rich Muny - PPA Board VP

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    Jun 9th, 2009 (6/9/2009 5:44pm) in reply to KASHAT0812

     
    Originally Posted by KASHAT0812 View Post

    I HAVE 3K IN THERE FROM CASH GAMES, R U TELLING ME I WONT EVER C MY MONEY? I PLAY ON UB AND HAVENT HEARD N E THING

    The sites say they will cover the money.
     
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