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60 years since a sitting president visited Madison, WI. Exciting!
He's speaking at a middle school regarding education reform. Regardless of your political preference, how can you not support more money for schools???
Bush's "no child left behind" was a joke, though. The idea is good, but the implementation is terrible. It punishes school districts with failing students and cuts their funding. Ridiculous. Those are the schools that need funding the most.
Anyway, I'm pretty close to where he's speaking, might catch a glimpse of the baller motorcade. Every beltline exit for 3 miles is basically shut down... seems a little overboard.
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Whoa there cowboy. You might want to knock it down before you do anything else.
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First Madison, next The People's Republic of Boulder. He is smart to go where his socialist brethren hang out.
Regardless, it is impressive when a President comes to town. It used to happen quite a bit here in Colorado Springs.
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fly44
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WeyNot
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Bush's "no child left behind" was a joke, though. The idea is good, but the implementation is terrible. It punishes school districts with failing students and cuts their funding. Ridiculous. Those are the schools that need funding the most.
Lol @ spending more = fewer failing students.
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Lol @ spending more = fewer failing students.
So you'd rather just give up on them?
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Slowta
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First Madison, next The People's Republic of Boulder. He is smart to go where his socialist brethren hang out.
Regardless, it is impressive when a President comes to town. It used to happen quite a bit here in Colorado Springs.
he was just at Texas A&M a couple weeks ago, the most conservative school in the nation.
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So you'd rather just give up on them?
Not even close man, seriously. All he is saying (and I totally agree) is that spending more money on schools AND/OR teacher salaries has not shown any improvement in the education of kids or in measured tests (and yes, I agree that I hate end of year testing for kids and how much that rests on the teachers).
I don't think you would find one person here in OT who would say give up on kids but throwing more money down the drain is not the answer.
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WeyNot
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| Vypirious: | |
So you'd rather just give up on them?
Lol @ not throwing more money at it = giving up on them
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| Vypirious: | |
He's speaking at a middle school regarding education reform. Regardless of your political preference, how can you not support more money for schools???
Bush's "no child left behind" was a joke, though. The idea is good, but the implementation is terrible. It punishes school districts with failing students and cuts their funding. Ridiculous. Those are the schools that need funding the most.
I agree that its nice that Obama is pushing for more money for schools.
Just had to point out how funny it was that you questioned how ANYONE could EVER not support more money for schools and then manage to do it yourself in the very next sentence.
Pretty funny.
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educational funding should come from the state and local level.
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It punishes school districts with failing students and cuts their funding. Ridiculous. Those are the schools that need funding the most.
That's bullshit. In metro Richmond you have 3 major counties and the city schools. Chesterfield, Hanover, Henrico, and Richmond.
Chesterfield and Hanover spent the least per student with Henrico spending just slightly more per student, and they were the best public schools in the area. Richmond spent almost twice as much per student as any of these and were easily the worst.
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| jetsjets1028: | |
I agree that its nice that Obama is pushing for more money for schools.
Just had to point out how funny it was that you questioned how ANYONE could EVER not support more money for schools and then manage to do it yourself in the very next sentence.
Pretty funny.
Think you should re-read it. The next sentence I say that the provisions in "no child left behind" that CUTS funding from failing schools is a JOKE.
It does not contradict my earlier statement in the least. Perhaps you should take a critical reasoning course.
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| cdmalgee: | |
educational funding should come from the state and local level.
That's bullshit. In metro Richmond you have 3 major counties and the city schools. Chesterfield, Hanover, Henrico, and Richmond.
Chesterfield and Hanover spent the least per student with Henrico spending just slightly more per student, and they were the best public schools in the area. Richmond spent almost twice as much per student as any of these and were easily the worst.
SO propose alternative methods... but you can't cut funding from failing schools. How can that possibly help anything?
No where did I mention to throw more money at failing schools. I simply said not to CUT funding.
Lot of people make responses on here without actually thinking about what was posted.
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fair enough...but didnt it cut funding from failing schools and give it to thriving ones
thats called INCENTIVE TO SUCCEED
a concept most people arent aware of these days
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