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DENVER — The Colorado ski town of Breckenridge has voted overwhelmingly to legalize marijuana.
Early returns Tuesday night showed the proposal winning with 72 percent of the vote. The measure would allow adults over 21 to have up to 1 ounce of marijuana.
The measure is largely symbolic because pot possession remains a state crime for people without medical clearance. But supporters said they wanted to send a message to local law enforcement to stop busting small-time pot smokers.
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ess286
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11-04-2009 12:17 AM
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The other day a couple of guys and I were talking about the huge cultural change that would happen in this country if weed was legalized.
There would be weed stores, billboards, commercials. Marjuana commercials during the Super Bowl would be sureal. You could drive through and get a six pack of Bud Light and a pack of "Bud" cigs.
Just think of all the shit you see regarding cigs and alcohol and put weed in there too.
I still wouldn't use it though since I detest smoking
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Like the OP says though it's till largely symbolic because weed is still illegal. As long as it's illegal on the federal level it will always be illegal... Oh, and as far as Breckenridge goes, the cops will just charge everyone under the state statute.
but don't you think that, in some places at least, the cops will take the will of the people into account and cut down on petty pot charges? i would hope so, anyway - you're needed for so much more elsewhere
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ess286
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11-04-2009 12:19 AM
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| Lord Supremo: | |
I guess thats sort of the problem with weed...certainly one of the problems they'll have whenever it gets legalized nationally...i don't know of any test that can accurately and scientifically measure whether or not someone is actively baked in the same way a breathalyzer can measure your alcohol intoxication level. Not that baked driving is equivalent to drunk driving, but both should clearly be illegal and idk how police could test someone the pulled over on suspicion of DWH. Same thing with employers: going to work high is clearly not acceptable but I dunno how you test for it
Currently you can be charged with DUI while having too much weed in your system. There are roadside tests and of course fluid tests. Many states don't differentiate
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bfactor
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11-04-2009 12:20 AM
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| ess286: | |
I still wouldn't use it though since I detest smoking
Fortunately you would still get to have loads of fun eating it though.
bfactor saves the day, as usual weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Post employment random testing is usually done for safety sensitive jobs like driving and operating dangerous equipment and should only be done in conjunction with clear policies in place.
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| ess286: | |
I still wouldn't use it though since I detest smoking
edibles FTW? Tell me these don't look delicious 
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| bfactor: | |
Heavy machineryaments
obv illegal if specially specified on the drug as something you can't do while you're on the drug obv obv obv
edit: lol I was too high on oxycodone, ironingly, to notice that your post said "marijuana" and not "oxycodone". Sighduckjalifjsae09fuaefklad
Its probably not a matter of what a label says, but rather what the employer deems to unsafe according to its policies. If an employer say no to testing positive for oxycodone it does not matter if it is prescribed.
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bfactor
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11-04-2009 12:25 AM
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You can also drink weed or suck weed (it comes in lollipop form too).
There are tons of ways to get high on marijuana without inhaling any smoke whatsoever Ess. When they legalize it, you should give it a try, it's fun. I wish I could still smoke weed. I do some of my best thinking when I'm high.
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Wait wait wait wait wait So if I have a big smokeout day one day (let's just say) and get tons of weed into my system. And then the next week when I'm driving along completely sober (but say I'm speeding or something cuz I'm hungry and want Quiznos) and a cop pulls me over and decides for whatever reason to hair/fluid/whatever test me for weed. And I obv test positive for all the weed I smoked last week, I could be charged with DUI on top of my speeding ticket? Despite the fact that I was completely sober at the time of the speeding? This is blowing my mind. Glad to have a friendly cop on here tho to answer these sorts of questions 
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| ess286: | |
Currently you can be charged with DUI while having too much weed in your system. There are roadside tests and of course fluid tests. Many states don't differentiate
keyword charged, obv the cop would say looked high and smelt high etc. but good luck using a piss test to give someone a dui, that will stick. Id love to hear of these road tests that are proved other than a policemans expert (not sarcastic) opinion. Also, i say that not sarcastically, but one time when I was in a court session a cop said he considered himself an expert on the subject having seen marijuana over 10-20 times
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| Lord Supremo: | |
Wait wait wait wait wait So if I have a big smokeout day one day (let's just say) and get tons of weed into my system. And then the next week when I'm driving along completely sober (but say I'm speeding or something cuz I'm hungry and want Quiznos) and a cop pulls me over and decides for whatever reason to hair/fluid/whatever test me for weed. And I obv test positive for all the weed I smoked last week, I could be charged with DUI on top of my speeding ticket? Despite the fact that I was completely sober at the time of the speeding? This is blowing my mind. Glad to have a friendly cop on here tho to answer these sorts of questions
Reasonable suspicion or probable cause might be an issue.
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bfactor
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11-04-2009 12:32 AM
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Heavy machineryaments
obv illegal if specially specified on the drug as something you can't do while you're on the drug obv obv obv
edit: lol I was too high on oxycodone, ironingly, to notice that your post said "marijuana" and not "oxycodone". Sighduckjalifjsae09fuaefklad
Its probably not a matter of what a label says, but rather what the employer deems to unsafe according to its policies. If an employer say no to testing positive for oxycodone it does not matter if it is prescribed.
Let's say, however, that the person is not a heavy machinery operator, which is obv a special circumstance since the drug company itself says you can't do that while on their drug, no ifs ands or buts, but instead let's say...
...that the person was not a forklift operator or UPS truck driver or whatever the fuck, but instead, was just a plain old office worker who sat in a cubicle doing regular plain old computer work.
Now THAT could put up a decent court case. Cuz now it could be argued that since the drug itself doesn't say it's bad to do office work while on it, then descriminating against the worker for taking medicine for a medical problem would be illegal.
Just like descriminating against a fat person who had to take diabetes medicine that made the person sleepier than the avg person would be illegal. Or just like descriminating against a dude with high blood pressure who had to take high blood pressure medication that made him sleepier than the avg person would be illegal.
Similarily descriminating against a chronic pain sufferer who took opiate painkillers which made him more relaxed/not-in-pain than the avg person would also be illegal if the person's work performance was not significantly worsened by the medication that is.
If the person's work isn't affected by their medicine, I think it's against the rules to fire the mofo for the sole reason of him using the medicine, regardless of what the medicine is, as long as it's legally prescribed, no?
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ess286
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11-04-2009 12:34 AM
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keyword charged, obv the cop would say looked high and smelt high etc. but good luck using a piss test to give someone a dui, that will stick. Id love to hear of these road tests that are proved other than a policemans expert (not sarcastic) opinion. Also, i say that not sarcastically, but one time when I was in a court session a cop said he considered himself an expert on the subject having seen marijuana over 10-20 times
The roadside tests are the Horizonal Gaze test (also known as the eye test). There is one way you do it for alcohol and another way you do it for drugs (not just weed). Willywoo is right of course. There is a whole gammet of things that need to fit before you take the person in and ask them to submit to a blood or urine test (I don't know of any of our officers that use urine btw).
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Well, yeah. But would that be my only defense? I don't get the "I actually wasn't high at the time I was pulled over, the weed was leftover in my system from last week" defense too?
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I just said urine because thats kinda what i consider a standard drug test
But yea, by gammet of things I assume beyond just saying that he looked and smelled high. I could maybe see that working, but without some paraphanalia or trace amounts it would be a tough sell.
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