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So there is another shooting on campus this morning. Check cnn, but in the last week we've had two bomb threats also, and in the beginning of the year a guy broke out of jail and ran lose on campus. All this happening as HS seniors and their families come to tech to check out the school.
classes cancelled, poker all day
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These reporters need to STFU.
they need to realize how a university works...that you can't check every fucking person that comes in and out of a university, you can't lock down and make buildings only open to those who are students, theres 50,000 people doing 1,000,000 different things EVERYDAY...if you have 10,000 CARS coming to your university daily you think they are going to stop every car and check every student and every students bag?
you think that they are going to make 50,000 students walk through X-Ray scanners EVERYDAY!?!!?
Seriously....I don't get why people are bitching about how the campus is run, it's run the same as the other THOUSANDS of Universities worldwide.
Obviously terribly unfortunate incident, but to suggest that it could of been prevented by taking measures that no other institutions impliments is ridiculous...
I fucking hate the media at times like this...
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I agree with you about them not being able to have super security like that... but most people are complaining that they didn't immediately lock down and cancel classes after 2 people died in a dorm room at 730 am (2 hrs prior to the main shooting) and there was an unknown gunman on the loose.
There was piss poor communication and very bad decisions made by officials that led up to this. That's why everyone is coming down on them.
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I love how they kept having to explain how keycards work for getting into dorms and how they sounded suprised that they didn't have these at the classrooms
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I know i saw the same thing. And besides, you can just piggyback in even if you dont have a card.
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yeah piggybacking is pretty common
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This is a sad day, but not like 9-11. Maybe I'm skewed because I was in the pentagon on 9-11. I don't mean to take away from this tragedy, but it doen't seem fitting to compare the two. RIP 32.
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:'(
praying for the families
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I understand why, but theres over 100 buildings at VT. To my knowledge they thought the situation was under control in the dorm. They still don't know if the shooter is the same from both incidents. So I'm taking this as, they thought the dorm incident was under control, no need to lock down the whole campus.
If theres a murder in an office they don't shut down 10 city blocks if the situation is under control do they?
Obviously if word comes out and both incidents are proven to be the same shooter, then obviously you have to question why if the shooter was not in custody, did they not lock down the University with a person who ust shot 2 others on the loose.
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redsoxx, how can it be "under control" if you didn't find the killer?!?!?! You have 2 dead people in a dorm room, and a murderer loose on campus, and its "under control." Please explain that to me.
In these cases, especially on a college campus, you always have to assume the worst. If someone gets shot in a school building and the gunman is loose, it's shut down time. Immediately. No question about it.
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They haven't sad anything about this...you are assuming like everyone else that this is the same shooter...
Now theres a 95% chance it is...but there has still been no comformation of this.
for all you know the shooter in incident #1 could have been one of the two causualties from that scene.
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"Though university police Chief Wendell Flinchum said police were still
investigating whether the two incidents were related, he also said the
gunman at Norris Hall took his own life. Investigators are not ruling
out a second shooter, Flinchum said. (Watch the police chief explain where bodies were found  )"
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Looks like they finally confirmed that the gunman killed himself. I seriously wouldn't doubt it if there was two shooters.
edit: I almost already knew I would get page 3'd.
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That is of nooooooooooooooo consequence. The FACT remains that you have 2 people dead, and a killer on the LOOSE 2 hours before the main shooting. It doesn't matter if it turns out that a second guy did the main shooting, because there is still a murderer loose on your campus.
You NEED to assume the worst and shut down the campus immediately after the first shooting at 730 am. How is this not making sense?
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