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I do not beleive in god for several reasons. The most prominate reason is that I find the whole idea of god rather unrealistic. In my eyes a relationship with god and a love of poker do not go hand in hand because to be truely succesfull at poker one must be very realistic; about ones own abilities and the probabilities of making a hand.
I am just curious what peoples views are on this. I would love to hear the thoughts of someone who is v. religious and loves poker.
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i believe in god
i play poker
i have no clue what these two things have to do with each other. one is a belief in a higher being, another is a hobby.
Daniel Negreanu is religious. he knows about statistics and probabilities, and he is highly successful, so i guess they can co-exist.
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that's also the impression i got from him.
the old "people who believe in god are insane" line.
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What the hell?
Do you mean do they GO together? Like apples and oranges? Like Bonnie and Clyde? What sort of wording is that?
If you mean can you both believe in god AND play and enjoy poker then obviously you can. Western religious scripture is so full of contradictions etc that basically you can find pretty much anything is acceptable if you look in the bible hard enough. That includes murder, genocide, rape nevermind poker lolz. Not sure about Islam but its probably similar.
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I play at Garden City with a pastor probably once a week. I asked him "I didn't know you were allowed to gamble." he said "Everything in moderation."
All I know is that Religion and Poker Forums should NOT go together.
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religion and poker ......no
spiritualism and poker, sure if it feels ok
if you believe god is the universe and universe is god, then the universe gave you free will
if you feel it is wrong, then it's wrong, if you feel it's ok, then it's ok
it's not up to anyone else to make this choice for ya man, gl with your inner demons
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I think plenty of people believe in god and are succesful at poker but I dont think they are succesful because they believe in god per say. I dont believe in god and I dont think that will change whether or not I win at poker. If anyone can provide physical proof of a god and then provide proof that he will help you win at poker then I will convert quicker than you can say amen.
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pariah
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07-16-2007 9:09 PM
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DO VETRINARIANS AND POKER GO TOGETHER?
In my eyes a relationship between vets and a love of poker do not go hand in hand because to be truely succesfull at poker one must be very ruthless; towards one opponents and towards ones own skills. Vets must care for the donkeys, llamas, fishes, and whales. Poker players must destroy them. I am just curious what peoples views are on this. I would love to hear the thouhgts of someone who is v. into animals and loves poker.
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I believe in God and he has given me a lot of strength. I believe that poker can work with the church as I see nothing directly wrong (biblically, legally, whatever) with playing poker. However, the idea of a poker player has come under a lot of scrutiny because of the choices that people make. A lot of people are addictive personality types, drink lots of alcohol, party a lot, and a number of bad things. To the public eye, playing poker may not be a glorious thing, although the "big bang" of poker has made it more acceptable regardless of the legal aspects. I actually think that God has chosen me to play poker. The life lessons and abilities that I have learned from playing this game are incredible. It has made me a better person. I have quit smoking (weed or cigs) and rarely drink because I want to be able to focus. I have learned incredible patience (i.e. - playing through long cold streaks and beats). I have cooled my temper down significantly when I am put under stress. I also have been genuinely nicer to people I play against even if they do not treat me the same and get lucky, or whatever. These important lessons have expanded into me general attitude toward life and have made me a better person because of it. This is why I believe God chose me to play.
Iaspire to be people like Barry Greenstein or Men "The Master" for several reasons. These people have taught themselves to be the best in their fields through persistance, diligance, hard work, and patience. These guys are also respectable people. Barry donates all of his tournament winnings (minus expenses and entry) to Children Inc. Men "The Master" makes yearly trips to third world countries to help out by handing out food and donating money to people who really need it, not just to keep for himself and bask in his own glory. I think that is pretty noble and something I would like to become one day.
I pray for people like "Vinny" Vinh who have problems and need serious help. I do not necessarily blame him because it is very easy to fall into temptation and I hope he finds his way out. I also pray that the profession of a poker player become a more respectable position in this world, much like it is to be a Stock Broker.
If church is not for you, I would hope you all would reconsider finding God as he has given us all some great things, but he gave us the best gift of all, the ability to choose. I hope that everyone here chooses what is best for them, but for God as well.
GL at the tables.
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I am not a holy roller by any means but I'm catholic and try to make church every sunday. Now in my religion you cannot take communion if you are not free of sin..which means that I would have to go to church saturday afternoon for confession to rid myself from sin....I haven't taken communion in a long long time and I'll be even more damned if I'm going to confession every week..I need to ask my priest wut the deal is on that..god is great BTW.=)
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A lot of interesting responses.
The reason I ask is because I have been regularly playing in a live game that is full of v. religious people. And they act so illogically - making stupidly -EV plays (that they know are -EV) and say stuff like "come on god!" before turns/rivers. And generally expecting god to get them out of crap situation, or even claiming that they were sure that god would get them out of a super -EV situations if they were to get into them during the game - which all results in them playing terribly. Appart from online this is the only poker I play so wanted to know if it was just this group of people that used religon like this.
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Havent ever heard of a poker player destroying a llama O.o I must have missed out on that one!
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PM WAR on details about poker players destroying llamas...
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you play poker with a bunch of knuckleheads. that's +EV. so maybe they like to gamble, and are super poker donks.
and how many times do you say stuff like "oh my god" or do people say "plz god let my AA hold up"? are you seriously trying to speak to/pray to god at these moments? probably not.
i think in this particular situation, these two aspects (god and poker) are unrelated. you are playing against a bunch of donks who maybe also like to pray to god while playing craps or roullette.
so go clean out their pockets!
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pariah
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07-16-2007 9:36 PM
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LOL @ you assuming a poker donk's -EV plays have metaphysical implications
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Cabo
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Move this to off topic please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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