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House passed Healthcare Reform
LDM (United States) 6,211 Posts. Joined 02-13-2006.
11-07-2009 10:25 PM

 don't know much about it yet.

 
 
 

Jennifear (United States) 9,638 Posts. Joined 11-01-2005.
11-08-2009 8:27 AM - In reply to

pigalet42: 
One thing we can agree on, this certainly is a bust


Yep.  It's failed already, right?

pigalet42 (United States) 10,456 Posts. Joined 01-31-2007.
11-08-2009 8:30 AM - In reply to

Jennifear: 
Yep.  It's failed already, right?
yep - passing this obscenity def qualifies as a failure in my book

Jennifear (United States) 9,638 Posts. Joined 11-01-2005.
11-08-2009 8:36 AM - In reply to

pigalet42: 
yep - passing this obscenity def qualifies as a failure in my book


Yeah, because the current system is working SO well, right?

slaps825 (United States) 487 Posts. Joined 12-08-2005.
11-08-2009 8:37 AM - In reply to

 Pete Rose would like a word with you.


pigalet42 (United States) 10,456 Posts. Joined 01-31-2007.
11-08-2009 8:38 AM - In reply to

Jennifear: 
Yeah, because the current system is working SO well, right?
yeah, cuz this bullshit is actually going to "fix" something - pass the koolaid

 

"There is a certain relief in change, even though it be from bad to worse"— Washington Irving


Jennifear (United States) 9,638 Posts. Joined 11-01-2005.
11-08-2009 8:50 AM - In reply to

pigalet42: 
yeah, cuz this bullshit is actually going to "fix" something - pass the koolaid

 

"There is a certain relief in change, even though it be from bad to worse"— Washington Irving



Nah, just ship the Koolaid to the folks that think this is going to result in huge long lines, one-month wait periods for necessary surgeries, 24 hr waiting periods at the ER, and more people who don't get necessary treatments and die as a result. 

All I know is that FINALLY a system is in place that will prevent the private insurance companies from charging ridiculously exorbitant costs, and will put a leash on how much we are charged for certain procedures.  These insurance companies have been running us over for a long time.  Trust me, as someone who pays for 100% of their own insurance, and has to battle with them for them to cover what they are supposed to every time I get treated, this is a nice, welcome change.

It's still not what I hoped for, but the American public is firmly against Universal Health Care for some odd reason, so it can't pass.

Mr Galt (United States) 6,060 Posts. Joined 11-21-2007.
11-08-2009 8:58 AM - In reply to

Price controls ftw!  Never fails!





Willywoo (Djibouti) 12,513 Posts. Joined 01-30-2006.
11-08-2009 9:09 AM - In reply to

 Funniest post I have read in a while. What a disconnect from identifying problems in the current system to the proposed resolution.  Wishful thinking at its finest.

Are you even aware of any alternative solutions to the problems you cite, cost and coverage/claim denial?

Trust you? Why? I'm certain that you have not read this bill.

ftr this system is not in place and never will be or did you forget about the legislative body we call the US Senate.

I can feel the emotion in your post though, especially your comment about the American public. Ever stop to think about what odd reasons there may be to be on favor of an alternative other than Universal healthcare?


Numan (United States Minor Outlying Islands) 1,005 Posts. Joined 02-07-2006.
11-08-2009 9:13 AM - In reply to

Willywoo: 

 Funniest post I have read in a while. What a disconnect from identifying problems in the current system to the proposed resolution.  Wishful thinking at its finest.

Are you even aware of any alternative solutions to the problems you cite, cost and coverage/claim denial?

Trust you? Why? I'm certain that you have not read this bill.

ftr this system is not in place and never will be or did you forget about the legislative body we call the US Senate.

I can feel the emotion in your post though, especially your comment about the American public. Ever stop to think about what odd reasons there may be to be on favor of an alternative other than Universal healthcare?



Don't be so hard on pigalet.

Willywoo (Djibouti) 12,513 Posts. Joined 01-30-2006.
11-08-2009 9:15 AM - In reply to

That's funny Mr Galt. The irony to me is that it was wage controls that started us down this path of employer based health insurance, now we are going to fix it with more controls and regulation. The people in our government are so smart and such students of history.

Willywoo (Djibouti) 12,513 Posts. Joined 01-30-2006.
11-08-2009 9:18 AM - In reply to

 I'm against it.


darkpoker12 (United States) 9,869 Posts. Joined 01-29-2007.
11-08-2009 9:19 AM - In reply to

 

Jennifear please stick to talking about poker, it's painful to read what you write. Or maybe talk about persona or something

ginwilly (United States) 4,083 Posts. Joined 01-02-2006.
11-08-2009 9:24 AM - In reply to

 wonder if the republican bill with cross state sales and tort reform will even be looked at. It actually does cut costs according to the CBO. It's only a small start of what needs to be done, but if it were implemented it could be started tomorrow, the other bill will be years away.


on another subject, looks like pot will be legal by 2012


Jennifear (United States) 9,638 Posts. Joined 11-01-2005.
11-08-2009 9:32 AM - In reply to

darkpoker12: 

 

Jennifear please stick to talking about poker, it's painful to read what you write. Or maybe talk about persona or something


Okay... you republicans carry on with your little party then.

scgolfer (United States) 988 Posts. Joined 05-17-2005.
11-08-2009 9:36 AM - In reply to

Jennifear: 
Nah, just ship the Koolaid to the folks that think this is going to result in huge long lines, one-month wait periods for necessary surgeries, 24 hr waiting periods at the ER, and more people who don't get necessary treatments and die as a result. 

All I know is that FINALLY a system is in place that will prevent the private insurance companies from charging ridiculously exorbitant costs, and will put a leash on how much we are charged for certain procedures.  These insurance companies have been running us over for a long time.  Trust me, as someone who pays for 100% of their own insurance, and has to battle with them for them to cover what they are supposed to every time I get treated, this is a nice, welcome change.

It's still not what I hoped for, but the American public is firmly against Universal Health Care for some odd reason, so it can't pass.


Please link me to where they say costs will go down?  The CBO has said there is a good chance prices for most of Americans will go up.  Younger people can no longer get discounts for being healthy, essentially they socialized it and by pooling everyone.  My guess is Jennifear is in your specific spot paying 100% and being relatively young is your costs are going up not down.  If you were 58 and had cancer, yes your costs will go down.  If you happen to be in the poverty level then you will get a subsidy but I dont think your in that category either.
 
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