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Intellectual Property Rights????
LDM (United States) 6,215 Posts. Joined 02-13-2006.
11-22-2009 3:02 PM

copyrights are something I'm a moron about.  I can't even decide what I think about them.

I despise the use of government force, but I also believe people are entitled to the fruits of their labor.

anyone ever get philosophical on intellectual property rights?
 
 
 

Seykota (Malaysia) 7,562 Posts. Joined 07-14-2005.
11-22-2009 3:03 PM - In reply to

I did my senior undergrad thesis on intellectual property rights. If you want to know more read some Lawrence Lessig. he has a TED video out as well also.


vjpconst1 (United States) 2,791 Posts. Joined 04-03-2007.
11-22-2009 3:06 PM - In reply to

Was gonna hire this guy to handle a painting division of my company.  He wanted me to sign a paper saying in the event he was fired that I couldn't use marketing plans he came up with. 

"my intellectual property"  told him to GTFO.


LDM (United States) 6,215 Posts. Joined 02-13-2006.
11-22-2009 3:09 PM - In reply to

This movie was good on Hulu, but i'm torn on it aswell.

Rip! A Remix Manisfesto

http://www.hulu.com/watch/88782/rip-a-remix-manifesto

Niceguy (United States) 6,825 Posts. Joined 07-12-2006.
11-22-2009 3:10 PM - In reply to

 So, you told him to gtfo because he wanted to protect himself?

Seems intellectual.


LDM (United States) 6,215 Posts. Joined 02-13-2006.
11-22-2009 3:10 PM - In reply to

what about if you sent an idea for Lost to ABC and they turned it down, but did an episode with your idea.

oBOBCATu (United States) 7,849 Posts. Joined 06-22-2005.
11-22-2009 3:44 PM - In reply to

http://www.dklevine.com/general/intellectual/againstfinal.htm

http://mises.org/journals/jls/15_2/15_2_1.pdf

Here are two works that address IP from an anti-IP perspective. They're well worth reading through if you're interested in the topic.

Personally, at least at present, I think that property rights should only apply to tangible things. If you apply property rights to intangible things like ideas, chemical formulas, specific organizations of letters or sounds (songs/books), ie. the "recipe", an artificial scarcity is introduced, resulting in fewer people being able to enjoy (and at a lower cost--in fact in many cases the marginal cost of the thing may be almost zero) the idea/song/book, etc. IP results in a dimunition in human welfare by almost any measure.


ginwilly (United States) 4,098 Posts. Joined 01-02-2006.
11-22-2009 3:47 PM - In reply to

 i'm a physical therapist. free healthcare only works if those of us working are willing to give up our intellectual property


Etrain99 (United States) 3,162 Posts. Joined 01-10-2008.
11-22-2009 4:56 PM - In reply to

i studied intellectual property rights quite a bit but i do not understand your question


werd2u (Thailand) 645 Posts. Joined 02-12-2007.
11-22-2009 4:59 PM - In reply to

One of my professors told a chinese exchange student she couldnt use a recorder on his lectures because its his intellectual property.

Kinda ridiculous imo

Milo (Canada) 1,413 Posts. Joined 03-02-2008.
11-22-2009 6:24 PM - In reply to

 

Niceguy: 

 So, you told him to gtfo because he wanted to protect himself?

Seems intellectual.



No, he told him to GTFO because the guy was an idiot.  If he is employed by me, and one of his jobs is to come up with marketing ideas for my company, those ideas become, de facto, my property as that is what I am paying him for.  If he would like to be an independent contractor, with all the risks that entails, then a different arrangement can be made, otherwise no.

Oh, and in the age of the internet, the idea of "Intellectual Property" is becoming increasingly tenuous . . . and in 20 years max. will be irrelevant.

vjpconst1 (United States) 2,791 Posts. Joined 04-03-2007.
11-22-2009 6:28 PM - In reply to

Milo: 

 

Niceguy: 

 So, you told him to gtfo because he wanted to protect himself?

Seems intellectual.



No, he told him to GTFO because the guy was an idiot.  If he is employed by me, and one of his jobs is to come up with marketing ideas for my company, those ideas become, de facto, my property as that is what I am paying him for.  If he would like to be an independent contractor, with all the risks that entails, then a different arrangement can be made, otherwise no.

Oh, and in the age of the internet, the idea of "Intellectual Property" is becoming increasingly tenuous . . . and in 20 years max. will be irrelevant.
Oh man, thanx for typing that!  I started but just said fuck it, waste of time. 

Milo (Canada) 1,413 Posts. Joined 03-02-2008.
11-22-2009 6:40 PM - In reply to

No problem . . .

But don't ever quote it again, as it is my IP.


HK_MP5N 8,419 Posts. Joined 07-27-2005.
11-22-2009 7:04 PM - In reply to

Milo: 

Oh, and in the age of the internet, the idea of "Intellectual Property" is becoming increasingly tenuous . . . and in 20 years max. will be irrelevant.

Not so, the paid professionals of this field (IP attorneys) and such will adapt and change as the subject matter does.  It certainly is going to add many wrinkles to IP insurance polices and how they are written.

emcee21 (United States) 14,326 Posts. Joined 02-15-2006.
11-22-2009 7:21 PM - In reply to

I'm for them in principle, but the current system probably needs reform.
 
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