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Who else hates Big Oil?
LDM (United States) 5,291 Posts. Joined 02-13-2006.
05-25-2008 12:44 PM

1.  Not our soldiers and government employees--  the Thrift Saving Plan has considerable investments in Big Oil and the profits benefit their retirement.

2.  Not teachers--  The National Education Association, largest teacher's union, has considerable investments in Big Oil and the profits benefit their retirement.

3.  Not Firefighters--  The International Association of Firefighters has considerable investments in Big Oil and the profits benefit their retirement.

4.  Not Law Enforcement--  National Union of Police and Prison Officers has considerable investments in Big Oil and the profits benefit their retirement.

5.  Not Blue Collar Workers--  The AFL-CIO, the world's largest labor union, has considerable investments in Big Oil and the profits benefit their retirement.


So who is it that is complaining about Big Oil making profits?  Oh, it's politicians that aren't getting their "fair share".
 
 
 

ess286 (United States) 15,372 Posts. Joined 10-02-2005.
05-26-2008 9:08 AM - In reply to

4.  Not Law Enforcement--  National Union of Police and Prison Officers has considerable investments in Big Oil and the profits benefit their retirement.


I have never heard of this union. Never


LDM (United States) 5,291 Posts. Joined 02-13-2006.
05-26-2008 9:09 AM - In reply to

mathclub: 
are you some left wing hippy that doesn't have a clue about business.

what do you do for a job exactly?? 

and i'm still waiting to see what these 'profits' are as a percentage of what it costs to make those profits.



i think i'm being leveled.

I r happy with companies making money.  i wish more had freedom to do so.

Randers (United States) 6,303 Posts. Joined 11-23-2005.
05-26-2008 9:10 AM - In reply to

but they will not with ever increasing energy prices 


LDM (United States) 5,291 Posts. Joined 02-13-2006.
05-26-2008 9:14 AM - In reply to

pretty much all classes of people make money when "Big Oil" makes money. 


Randers (United States) 6,303 Posts. Joined 11-23-2005.
05-26-2008 9:17 AM - In reply to

 wow what?



who do you think scoops the vast majority of profits of "big oil"


board members/stockholders > gen public


LDM (United States) 5,291 Posts. Joined 02-13-2006.
05-26-2008 9:19 AM - In reply to

Randers: 

 wow what?



who do you think scoops the vast majority of profits of "big oil"


board members/stockholders > gen public



who do you think the "stockholders" of big oil are?  read the OP to find out.

mathclub (New Zealand) 6,585 Posts. Joined 01-17-2007.
05-26-2008 9:22 AM - In reply to

this thread makes my head hurt.

i don't even get the point of it, and i've read the op like 4 times.


Randers (United States) 6,303 Posts. Joined 11-23-2005.
05-26-2008 9:23 AM - In reply to

lol yea middle america owns like <5% of big oil


threebanger (United States) 5,089 Posts. Joined 09-18-2007.
05-26-2008 9:24 AM - In reply to

LDM: 

pretty much all classes of people make money when "Big Oil" makes money. 



I guess you're smarter than hundreds of Democrats in Congress? They don't agree with that statement at all.

Them berating oil execs is like a parent making a kid stand in the corner then asking them why they aren't cleaning their room. Just the hint of production from ANWR and off the coasts of Cali and Fla would undercut the speculators and drop the barrel price back under $100. Imagine what beginning actual construction of new refineries would then do.

"Oh but it will take 10 years" yeah that's what Bill Clinton said 12 years ago. The Democrats are mostly to blame for this, but so are the Republicans for not standing on their principles and hammering this through back when they had the political capital to do so.

mathclub (New Zealand) 6,585 Posts. Joined 01-17-2007.
05-26-2008 9:28 AM - In reply to

Re:Who else hates Big Oil? In reply to
By mathclub on 05-26-2008 1:20 AM Reply Quote Edit

yawn.

1 - show me that any big oil company has been making unreasonable profits over a sustained time. 

2 - if you don't like the products price, don't buy it, stop being a whiny little girl.

 


skankmofo (United States) 1,203 Posts. Joined 08-23-2005.
05-26-2008 10:27 AM - In reply to

I don't want oil to get any higher, but I think it's hit a sweet spot where people care enough to do something and look for alternatives (buy smaller cars, hybrids, take public transportation, car pool, etc) without being so high as to bankrupt people.  But I don't have a car now and take public transportation to work every day, so maybe i'm looking at it from a privileged and heartless position.  Plus I'm up a decent amt of money with some oil stocks...canadian oil trusts FTW.

6 million barrels per day under the low and high resource cases,
respectively

tdoc6 (United States) 104 Posts. Joined 03-15-2006.
05-27-2008 8:26 AM - In reply to

What other product that is used on a daily basis has quadrupled in price in 6 short years?
It's tough to budget for that.


GODSHAMGOD (United States) 922 Posts. Joined 07-25-2007.
05-27-2008 9:38 AM - In reply to

I don't know about great depressions and whatnot, but if you don't think the escalating gas prices are going to adversely affect anything beyond dirving a few miles, then LOL at you.  The prices of EVERYTHING will continue to go up as a result of rising fuel costs.  This combined with lowering average wages is clearly a bad signal. 

Also, stop acting as if Oil is just like any other business. 


TheWacoKidd (United States) 25,176 Posts. Joined 10-05-2005.
05-27-2008 10:06 AM - In reply to

skankmofo: 

  But I don't have a car now and take public transportation to work every day, so maybe i'm looking at it from a privileged and heartless position.

6 million barrels per day under the low and high resource cases,
respectively


actually the people that can afford gas or car services are privileged... ppl who ride public transportation are not... lol

TheWacoKidd (United States) 25,176 Posts. Joined 10-05-2005.
05-27-2008 10:09 AM - In reply to

GODSHAMGOD: 

I don't know about great depressions and whatnot, but if you don't think the escalating gas prices are going to adversely affect anything beyond dirving a few miles, then LOL at you.  The prices of EVERYTHING will continue to go up as a result of rising fuel costs.  This combined with lowering average wages is clearly a bad signal. 

Also, stop acting as if Oil is just like any other business. 



umm yea I was clearly scoffing at "worse than the Great Depression"

please point to me where I said that escalating gas prices will not adversely affect anything else... thanks
 
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