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Whomever Thinks We Should Pull Out of Iraq
norcaljeff (United States) 22,518 Posts. Joined 09-19-2007.
05-30-2008 11:26 PM

was betraying the iraqi people once not enough? we should abandon them to the terrorists? really? We should throw away all the progress that has been made? We should ignore the birth of democracy in the heart of the middle east? really? that's a good idea?  really? Please answer this question: What possible mfgood can come from us retreating? How can handing al-queda and the jihaadists an unbelievably huge victory possibly help anyone, anywhere? cereally. tyinadvance

ghostps. I used "whomever" bc you don't know how to use it either, so I look smart.
 
 
 

norcaljeff (United States) 22,518 Posts. Joined 09-19-2007.
05-30-2008 11:51 PM - In reply to

excellent rebutal! err..


norcaljeff (United States) 22,518 Posts. Joined 09-19-2007.
05-30-2008 11:51 PM - In reply to

ty?


OSUBucks42 (United States) 2,015 Posts. Joined 03-28-2006.
05-30-2008 11:52 PM - In reply to

ding.......oh oh oh it is al-Qaeda (lol, just wanna be the spelling police, in honor of the spelling bee.  i know it can be spelled like 98 different ways too and thats one of them), but i agree that we can not pull out of iraq now.  pulling out is going to hurt our image more than staying there.  however, if someone wants to pull out they are not a POS (unless you are this person).


norcaljeff (United States) 22,518 Posts. Joined 09-19-2007.
05-30-2008 11:52 PM - In reply to

I am drunk -errr- buzzed. that count? ps. pigalet is hawt. frf if he doesn't agrii


Magnet Steve (United States) 8,328 Posts. Joined 01-08-2006.
05-30-2008 11:53 PM - In reply to

Excuse me, but, what, pray tell, are our current mission objectives?  And God help you if you say "Stop the terrorists."  That's not a military objective.  "Capture that hill" is a military objective.  "Force this army to surrender" is a military objective.  "Level Hiroshima with an A-bomb" is a military objective.  "Stop the terrorists" is a full-time political commitment requiring intelligence, anti-and-counter-terrorism, and a plethora of other tactics.  You can't "win" that; you can't "beat" terrorism.  If Al Qaeda in Iraq and Sadr surrendered tomorrow, you haven't "won", because some other jackass would take up the mantle.  Fuck, peace for the most part reigns in Northern Ireland, and there are STILL jackasses running around calling themselves IRA in some form or another.

Anyone who things you can "win" whatever is happening in Iraq the same way you can win a war is dishonest for political purposes, or a fucking moron.  And that's coming from someone who SUPPORTED the war, and OPPOSES full withdrawal. 


tekiller 8,818 Posts. Joined 06-14-2006.
05-30-2008 11:54 PM - In reply to

uh yea they do have you watched any of the videos of iraqi citizens asking us to gtfo?
do some research man before you talk about something you know little about.


MadProfesor (Anonymous Proxy) 7,181 Posts. Joined 01-13-2006.
05-30-2008 11:56 PM - In reply to

guess im a POS too ... all soliders out of Vietnam2 immed pls.


amr999 (Canada) 310 Posts. Joined 02-26-2005.
05-30-2008 11:56 PM - In reply to

norcaljeff,

You really think that you can kill them all.  It cannot be done.  they will always be there, or somewhere.  How long has the US been there.  How much progress have they made?  Even if it does get under control, the day after the US pulls out it will just start again.  I just have a hard time believing that it is worth it to sacrifice thousands of lives to make a little bit of progress. 


norcaljeff (United States) 22,518 Posts. Joined 09-19-2007.
05-30-2008 11:57 PM - In reply to

ira bomb anyone lately?

looool @ "can't win"! how come? didn't Ireland win?

OSUBucks42 (United States) 2,015 Posts. Joined 03-28-2006.
05-31-2008 12:00 AM - In reply to

     Sean Penn

         F.A.G
Last year I went to Iraq. Before Team America showed up, it was a happy place. They had flowery meadows and rainbow skies, and rivers made of chocolate, where the children danced and laughed and played with gumdrop smiles.


norcaljeff (United States) 22,518 Posts. Joined 09-19-2007.
05-31-2008 12:00 AM - In reply to

so we should, what? wait till they come here? I don't understand the "can't win" aspect.

what, brown people can't live in peace (cheap shot obv. lol). we've already sacrificed thousands. why pull out now?

Magnet Steve (United States) 8,328 Posts. Joined 01-08-2006.
05-31-2008 12:00 AM - In reply to

By whose definition?  If "stopping terrorists" is the definition of victory, then if some fucktard kills a couple kids in a shopping mall tomorrow and calls himself Provisional Real Awesome Totally Super-Cool IRA, then, by your own definition, Ireland lost, cause you didn't stop 'em all!  Making "stopping terrorists" a military win/lose objective gives terrorists far more power than they deserver.  Why do you love terrorists so much, norcaljeff?  Are you a terrorist, or just a terrorist-sympathizer?


Global counter-terrorist should not have the same rules as The Game.


P.S.  Everyone loses.


norcaljeff (United States) 22,518 Posts. Joined 09-19-2007.
05-31-2008 12:01 AM - In reply to

loool. wtf?

youtube???

pm the kurds for help

pigalet42 (United States) 10,429 Posts. Joined 01-31-2007.
05-31-2008 12:01 AM - In reply to

well, in that case... proceed :)


norcaljeff (United States) 22,518 Posts. Joined 09-19-2007.
05-31-2008 12:02 AM - In reply to

hey, 51,000 more soldiers and you are right! unless you meant that pulling out would result in the murder of millions of innocents. then you would be right

 
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