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Is this the standard to maximize/go broke here
By skanky980 on 05-14-2008 3:01 PM

second hand of the noon 40k on tilt. imo i think this is prob the best way to play this but i would like to see what u guys think.


Full Tilt Poker Game #6414039304: $40,000 Guarantee (48660599), Table 1 - 10/20 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:01:57 ET - 2008/05/14
Seat 1: jim5432 (2,990)
Seat 2: fsvu21 (2,980)
Seat 3: skanky980 (3,030)
Seat 4: -IriSh-cH0p- (3,000)
Seat 5: xjoecx (3,000)
Seat 6: joosjet (3,000)
Seat 7: BlackJackLeak (3,000)
Seat 8: CCS33 (3,000), is sitting out
fsvu21 posts the small blind of 10
skanky980 posts the big blind of 20
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to skanky980 [Ks Kc]
-IriSh-cH0p- calls 20
xjoecx folds
joosjet folds
BlackJackLeak folds
CCS33 folds
jim5432 raises to 80
fsvu21 folds
skanky980 raises to 270
-IriSh-cH0p- folds
jim5432 has 15 seconds left to act
jim5432 raises to 920
CCS33 has returned
skanky980 has 15 seconds left to act
skanky980 has requested TIME
klodi sits down
klodi adds 6,330
skanky980 calls 650
*** FLOP *** [3d 6s Jh]
skanky980 has 15 seconds left to act
skanky980 has requested TIME
skanky980 checks
jim5432 has 15 seconds left to act
jim5432 bets 940
skanky980 raises to 2,110, and is all in
jim5432 has 15 seconds left to act
jim5432 calls 1,130, and is all in
skanky980 shows [Ks Kc]
jim5432 shows [As Ac]
Uncalled bet of 40 returned to skanky980
*** TURN *** [3d 6s Jh] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [3d 6s Jh 5h] [2s]
skanky980 shows a pair of Kings
jim5432 shows a pair of Aces
jim5432 wins the pot (6,010) with a pair of Aces
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6,010 | Rake 0
Board: [3d 6s Jh 5h 2s]
Seat 1: jim5432 (button) showed [As Ac] and won (6,010) with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: fsvu21 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: skanky980 (big blind) showed [Ks Kc] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: -IriSh-cH0p- folded before the Flop
Seat 5: xjoecx didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: joosjet didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: BlackJackLeak didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: CCS33 didn't bet (folded)

 
 
 

Re:Is this the standard to maximize/go broke here In reply to
By dwbrown7680 on 05-14-2008 7:21 PM

It's really going to depend on the board, as if you're not getting it all in pre, then you can safely assume his range is QQ+ and AK (maybe JJ).  You can safely check knowing he's going to lead/shove on that flop and then cry as he flips over AA and start praying for a king. 

But as played, yes, this is a good way to either maximize or go broke.

 


Re:Is this the standard to maximize/go broke here In reply to
By Gregtzky on 05-14-2008 7:33 PM

Not Standard IMHO. 

 

KK v. AA there's a time and a place not to go broke in a tourney holding this cooler.

 

And that time and place in the first round of the tourney.  Shouldn'ta went broke here with the action that went on.

 

His preflop play screams AA. If you wanted to get even more justification you should have c-bet the flop and then if he raised there you have it.  You coulda came out a damaged but still alive.

 

Just my two cents but hey what do I know.


Re:Is this the standard to maximize/go broke here In reply to
By Micdiddy on 05-14-2008 7:45 PM

I doubt I'm ever laying down K on pre or on flop right here.

Just hsi re-re-raise pre is pretty standard. Pushing's fine too. 


Re:Is this the standard to maximize/go broke here In reply to
By FishOnTilt on 05-14-2008 7:46 PM

 

shove pre

Re:Is this the standard to maximize/go broke here In reply to
By Gregtzky on 05-14-2008 7:48 PM

I disagree AJKHoosier of CMoney3 (don't remember) had a post a while ago where I think he held KK early maybe first round of 1k with similar action I really don't believe in going broke with KK here with blinds at 10/20. 

 

 


Re:Is this the standard to maximize/go broke here In reply to
By jim5432 on 05-15-2008 4:30 AM

I was a bit surprised you played it like that early in the game tbh - I thought I pretty much was screaming AA. when you tanked on flop thought you maybe had JJ and were figuring best way to play - when you shoved on me I was getting ready to chuck laptop across room!

 ul though - if its any consolation I lost count of the times I had AA cracked by under pairs last night. Think it was a new personal record!

And if its any more consolation I finished.....46th! (bubble 45 obv lol!)

 


Re:Is this the standard to maximize/go broke here In reply to
By skanky980 on 05-15-2008 11:15 AM

When u tanked and made it 900ish there my thought was that u have AA 96.5% of the time and live i just sigh and and fold. But online people play so bad  that im often enough shown 99 there that i just cant fold so my only thought preflop with kings is how i can paid on all my chips.


Re:Is this the standard to maximize/go broke here In reply to
By jim5432 on 05-16-2008 7:04 AM

 I think I tanked briefly cos I was playing about 6 at once!! Or I may have been OPR checking you - I know I did at some stage on that hand :)

 Interesting with comments about people showing down 99 etc there. If I hadn't been slightly wary of JJ I would consider over-betting there to try and rep TT-99 or something.
 

 
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