Poker Discussion Post

"Now my question to you all is, does anyone here call the dealer on flipping over the hand or do you guys just let it go."

Absolutely....if this is how it actually went down.

You did not call the bet, therefore your hand should have been immediately placed into the muck by the dealer.  There are always 2 sides to stories, and by no means am I saying you did anything different, but HOW did you muck?  Did you throw your cards in the air?  You say you didn't see the dealer show your AK?  Could the player have been lying about the dealer showing the hand and he was just being speculative?  Some dealers don't know when a hand can and cannot be shown.  I'd guess that if the dealer didn't show the hand, he/she would have spoken up for him/herself. 

Also, here you say "Guy in between me and the raiser said "AK was no good, I had 44".  Where did any raise take place other than your preflop raise?

Many players are very careless with their cards when mucking them.  They'll throw their cards to the other side of the table and often wonder why the cards flip up.  Had you slid your cards to the dealer towards the muck, then you'd have seen what the dealer actually did with them.  It is the player's responsibility to make sure the dealer puts the cards into the muck. 

bluefront:

 

i would have just slighted them on the next tip or two.  only fair.

"Why not just rebuy fish?"

I Wouldve Come Back Slapped Him In The Face With A Gasoline Soaked Towel

And Lit His Smug Face On Fire

The Caretaker:

"Why not just rebuy fish?"

I Wouldve Come Back Slapped Him In The Face With A Gasoline Soaked Towel

And Lit His Smug Face On Fire

how do you assign exactly a draw to the first guy and a pair to the second with such certainty, you must be good.

Think I would have mentioned something to a floor person by asking if you misunderstood the situation or if the dealer made an error. Soft sell it a bit but get your point across.

i would definitely say something to the dealer... not angrilly or get the pit boss involved or anything like that.  it's no big deal, sounds like you left soon after and arent likely to run into anyone there ever again.  but the dealer should know he needs to be paying more attention.

All I needed to see was foxwoods, they are the worst dealers I have ever seen.  Slow, lazy and smug.  The worst part is they pool thier tips so it even if you stop tipping the tool he just gets a share of the other dealers tips.

If, while mucking, you accidentally or on purpose showed anyone at the table your hand while they were still playing theirs, then everyone has a right to see it.  Occasionally, cards flash when thrown into the muck.  If that was not the case, and the dealer actually showed the hand to the table, you should have called a floor person and the dealer should have been punished.

Sry for no reply until now, I can't log on at work (LAME!!!!!)  At any rate here's some answers to gaps I left in the story.

The cards never left the table.  I simply pushed them over to the dealer then looked away.  There is no chance someone else saw the cards or that I flashed them to anyone.  Also, the guy was not angle shooting as there was another player next to me who was a decent guy that said the dealer had turned it over.

As far as reads, this was 6 hours into the session with these guys, I had picked up a few things and I was reading damn good, still somehow managed to lose $250 too...ugh.

That happened to me at the Beau Rivage a few months ago, and I said something to the dealer, who gave me a curt reply.  I let him know my dissatisfaction by abruptly not tipping him, after tipping him at least a buck or two for winning pots.

dtools22:

Sry for no reply until now, I can't log on at work (LAME!!!!!)  At any rate here's some answers to gaps I left in the story.

The cards never left the table.  I simply pushed them over to the dealer then looked away.  There is no chance someone else saw the cards or that I flashed them to anyone.  Also, the guy was not angle shooting as there was another player next to me who was a decent guy that said the dealer had turned it over.

As far as reads, this was 6 hours into the session with these guys, I had picked up a few things and I was reading damn good, still somehow managed to lose $250 too...ugh.

It was more the fact that the pot was so small, I don't think it broke $40.  Combined with the fact that I was losing it just seemed petty to me to argue about that.  Now thinking about it I regret not saying something.

I'm just more curious am I supposed to call the floor over and complain or not.