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Absolute--thread on 2+2
Zwett (United States) 1,421 Posts. Joined 06-01-2005.
09-15-2007 7:46 PM

dont kill the messanger...just something to drink on tonight..
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=12097244&page=0&fpart=4&vc=1

obv i dont think its true..i felt like starting some fire on p5
 
 
 

nosey313 (United States) 205 Posts. Joined 01-15-2006.
09-15-2007 11:38 PM - In reply to

yes

cloudyspirits (United States) 1,829 Posts. Joined 05-21-2006.
09-15-2007 11:38 PM - In reply to

yes

baughman (United States) 9,019 Posts. Joined 01-03-2006.
09-15-2007 11:42 PM - In reply to

what i wish would really happen is AP to drop the whole hand history of the guys in question to 2+2 or here for some of the  players to sift through or to have them run through pokertracker to see what the true numbers are.
   Until we see all the info. I dont want to jump to assumptions. A few hand historys and limited tracker stats on the guy doesnt make a rigged system. or in this case a rig account.
  thankfully if this is one guy who got ahold of a program AP used for software programing. It shouldnt be to hard to fix. Would be sad if Absolute drops in members do to this. It has been my fav site since the whole party leaving its skins a cpl years ago. If its one guy its not really APs fault. unless they dont fix it.
 
 


Tarvin (United States) 471 Posts. Joined 08-02-2007.
09-15-2007 11:43 PM - In reply to

yes

N 82 50 24 (Cayman Islands) 5,563 Posts. Joined 06-12-2005.
09-16-2007 12:02 AM - In reply to

yes

Drastic Leopard (Sierra Leone) 294 Posts. Joined 09-10-2007.
09-16-2007 12:04 AM - In reply to

absolutely

mr. menlo (United States) 1,350 Posts. Joined 02-15-2006.
09-16-2007 12:08 AM - In reply to

since I can't seem to access 2p2 right now, would anyone be so kind to give me the cliff notes of this? obv i can tell that it has something to do with AP being rigged or something alogn those lines.  But what type of proof do they have? What are the details?

Mike Legend 24 (United States) 217 Posts. Joined 10-02-2006.
09-16-2007 12:16 AM - In reply to

I get in to it briefly earlier so someone can probably give a better description.

The cliffnotes are basically there is an account that plays every hand and never makes the wrong decision. For instance, they have JJ. Check down until the other player hits their pair lower then J and then massively overbet the pot.

I also think I saw one where the account called down $200k w/ 10 high and won.

A whole litany of examples like that, all from the same account. W/ Pokertracker showing the account never loses.

It's a little scary.


ksssholdem 341 Posts. Joined 04-09-2006.
09-16-2007 12:16 AM - In reply to

dont know the full details but i can tell you this the guy who started this dont work for absolute poker

ksssholdem 341 Posts. Joined 04-09-2006.
09-16-2007 12:20 AM - In reply to

this probably why stars dont want us using sharkscope anymore.......to see the new accounts that win all day long...........just a thought

TomHimself (United States) 2,252 Posts. Joined 07-29-2005.
09-16-2007 12:21 AM - In reply to

menlo, basically people believe AP had accounts made where they could see all the whole cards for software purposes only, for updates etc. anyway somehow this got into the wrong hands and AP hasnt noticed and multiple names (believe to be 1 guy) has a 95% vpip and a ridic. winrate and ridic. river aggression.

UB is not involved fwiw



acecatcher26 (United States) 4,162 Posts. Joined 01-16-2006.
09-16-2007 12:29 AM - In reply to

One of the pokertracker stats said that he never once called a riverbet,  either raised or folded.  This was in 200/400 fixed.

Donkey5layer (United States) 778 Posts. Joined 12-05-2006.
09-16-2007 12:32 AM - In reply to

Ok just throwing this out there dont flame... i read the thread and its pretty obv that at least these 2 have cracked the rng if not shells... ap owns ub now correct?  should we be concerned there too?

TomHimself (United States) 2,252 Posts. Joined 07-29-2005.
09-16-2007 12:40 AM - In reply to

ub is not involved. different player pools and software

0 Posts. Joined 08-06-2007.
09-16-2007 1:53 AM - In reply to

reminds me of planet poker a few years back...

I would be suprised if AP noticed this before monday...

i am sure they give all 2 of their support employees and the weekend off..
 
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