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dont kill the messanger...just something to drink on tonight..
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=12097244&page=0&fpart=4&vc=1
obv i dont think its true..i felt like starting some fire on p5
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this is all pretty messed up. however if this is actually legit and theres a guy raking in on this how stupid does he have to be to not bait himself out. ovb by winning all the time someone will catch on.
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All you need to know
193 hands played at 15/30nl.
vpip-93.78% amount won-$54,305.50 BB/100 hands-468.96. went to SD-22.07% W$SD-50% PFR-72.02% PF AF-2.22 flop AF-4.48 turn AF-7.44 river AF 41.0.
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Damn, imagine how much money this guy could make if he wasn't such a dumb ass in making it so obvious...
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making it obvious?
its obv the website gents
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cliff notes:
river aggression of infinity
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I have no doubt in my mind that either someone gained access to a superaccount that the software developers used for testing, or even worse AP knowingly allows people to use accounts that can see hole cards, it sucks though becuase it's hard to listen to the crazy ass stories, but at the same time there is some pretty damning statistical evidence that something is not right.
Basically don't play at AP, they either know about this or don't give a shit about it becuase 100's if not 1000's of people are emailing them and not gettting dick for a response.
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sum1 said that ir u press up up down down left right left right b wen logging in it does sumthing what does it do?
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First off, i have been playing cash games on AP for over a year and have never experienced anything even close to what has happened to me on their in the last couple weeks. After playing long sessions of HU and short handed 10/20 and 15/30 NL on AP with DoubleDrag and Steamroller, here are a couple things i have noticed:
* I have never seen so many of my bluffs called with weak hands, every time i bluffed they were calling me very very weak on the river
* I NEVER got paid off on my big hands
* I have never seen either of them have losing sessions and lost a large amount too both, but mostly to DoubleDrag
* Won alot of small pots and lost 90% of the big ones
* I have never seen either of these 2 play before last week
These are just a couple of things i noticed. I would write more but am playing the sunday tournaments. Ill go back and find some of the HHs and post a couple on here later tonight
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If this type of shit is going on at Absolute, I have no doubt in my mind its not happening other places. Maybe not "hole card viewing" but definitely some other very shady things.
Absolute better make some comment about this with hand historys showing this guys hole cards for the sake of their players. We all have a right to know what the hell is going on.
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mordan
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09-16-2007 1:45 PM
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Ok.....so anyone who knows what river aggression of infinity means knows that means one thing
GG Speculation......no two ways about it this person/persons can see your hole cards
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I think all of you should check you PCs for trojan/rootkits.
What if he had your PC exploited?
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I found this link about 2/3 of the way down on that 2+2 thread...
http://www.internettexasholdem.com/phpbb2/at-absolute-pokeri-cant-believe-how-low-this-was-vt34808.html
I am still amazed and beyond disgusted at what I saw and heard very late last night/early in the morning at Absolute Poker...and I don't even know what to do about it. The irony of this happening the night after my "poker ethics" post is too much, also:
Anyone who has watched the 75/150 game there knows that Mark Seif (who is the site's signature pro and part-owner) has been extremely abusive lately of the other players when he's at the table.......always banning other players' chat in an instant and threatening account closure, etc. He has lost a lot a money at that 75 game (the resident pros consider him the big fish there) and it's been pretty obvious lately that it was starting to get to him more and more.
Anyway......stuckinpgh (my good friend Mike) is one of a handful of high-limit players who have managed to get under Mark's skin in recent weeks. It was evident that Seif was not fond of Mike and would tilt sometimes. Only this time, it turned out to be a lot worse than harmless trash talk.
Last night, Seif was actually having a good session for a few hours at the 75 table. Eventually the game mostly broke up, and it was just Seif and Mike heads up. After some see-saw action, Mike started to get the best of him again and was ahead maybe 4 or 5 k for the HU time, I'd say. At that point, Seif says something like "one second punk"....leaves the table.....then comes back about a minute later and announces "I'm ready to take you down."
Play then started again......and I saw something that I never have before in all my on-line poker play: obvious manipulation. Every hand was a complete dissection based on whatever Mike was holding (third pair was capped by Seif if Mike was behind or bluffing, for example.) About 10 or 12 k was basically stolen in 15 minutes (over maybe 100 hands), and here's the kicker: he was so pissed and beyond rational thinking that he actually wanted Mike to know what was going on! For example, Mike had K9 on one hand and flopped a boat. Seif was first to act after the flop, and FOLDED OUT OF TURN just that time. I had heard that Seif was having some personal problems, but who would've ever guessed that he could be capable of this. Between that possibility and the abuse that he's taken from the pros (in chat, $ lost, and pride lost at the tables), he must've finally snapped and lowered himself THAT much to get some revenge. We were simply stunned, and all Mike could do at the time was leave the game and withdraw the rest of his money (which he did get already.)
I have never played in a game with Mark Seif myself (or ever said a word to him), so none of this information is based on anything personal between him and me. I'm only trying to help out a good friend here and to call some needed attention to what happened. If Seif is capable of this, then it's a scary thought to trust your money to that site. And to think I was just about to deposit to play the 75 game myself.
Who knows if its true or not, but take it for what its worth.
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I remember in particular playing Steamroller. I play at the lower levels though and think this was only a $6 (27 player sng). WOW!
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^^^ That particular thread is dated February of 2006. ^^^
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