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Absolute--thread on 2+2
Zwett (United States) 1,421 Posts. Joined 06-01-2005.
09-15-2007 7:46 PM

dont kill the messanger...just something to drink on tonight..
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=12097244&page=0&fpart=4&vc=1

obv i dont think its true..i felt like starting some fire on p5
 
 
 

daughton (United Kingdom) 133 Posts. Joined 10-22-2006.
09-16-2007 5:54 PM - In reply to

LMAO - how can you fail to make quota if you can see everyone's cards. What a load of rubbish.

JesseWJames (United States) 793 Posts. Joined 05-17-2007.
09-16-2007 5:57 PM - In reply to

what page of the thread are the screenshots on?

ShortStack3 (United States) 2,817 Posts. Joined 03-01-2006.
09-16-2007 6:30 PM - In reply to

img154/9972/pt311bbyc5.jpg

I had to crop the images a little bit so they would fit in the post.  There is 2 more that I will post
as soon as i get them edited.


northstar575 (Canada) 784 Posts. Joined 10-06-2006.
09-16-2007 6:36 PM - In reply to

103 hands.... wow.  I've read almost the whole two plus two thread and most of them don;t really have the slightest idea about how to find a cheater.  You can;t prove anything in 103 hands except that you don;t know much about poker statistics,

ShortStack3 (United States) 2,817 Posts. Joined 03-01-2006.
09-16-2007 6:38 PM - In reply to

img154/4749/pt528bbjp1.jpg


northstar575 (Canada) 784 Posts. Joined 10-06-2006.
09-16-2007 6:39 PM - In reply to

Btw the best was when one guy posted that it was impossible to run as good as the guy was in 500 hands.  Ummm take a random 2000 players and you will see several that run well and look like cheaters.  Some poker players really are idiots and just run lucky.

BTW not saying that this guy isn;t cheating, but looking at the other thread on two plus two it was just a waste of time.  show me some real evidence 

JesseWJames (United States) 793 Posts. Joined 05-17-2007.
09-16-2007 6:42 PM - In reply to

wow

northstar575 (Canada) 784 Posts. Joined 10-06-2006.
09-16-2007 6:43 PM - In reply to

river agg infinite over 30 or 28 hands...  of which he probably only played a few rivers anyways.

I've had infinite aggresion on river for over 100 hands before in single sessions, its not really that hard.


ShortStack3 (United States) 2,817 Posts. Joined 03-01-2006.
09-16-2007 6:44 PM - In reply to

northstar...your an idiot...NOBODY can run that good over multiple session playing high stakes poker.  Combine that with the fact that he NEVER calls the river...its either a raise or fold.  Why do u think that is?  Its because he knows for a fact whether or not he has the best hand.

Just take a look at some of the hand histories posted over at 2+2.  You think he can pick off EVERY bluff and play 3rd pair like its the nuts because he is in fact the poker god himself?  No, he sees the cards and its SF OBV.

northstar575 (Canada) 784 Posts. Joined 10-06-2006.
09-16-2007 6:48 PM - In reply to

lol 100 hands?  do you have any idea what average bb varaince is for 100 hands?  Anyways the fact that you don;t understand this makes me question your understanding of short term results.  You should know that 30 hands is worthless for calculating any river aggresion.
 

There were about three hand histories posted which just proved that he might be an idiot.  There were also people up on him.


BTW I'm not gonna bother responsding to any more of your posts since you seem to be convinced I or anyone else who sees wholes in this story is an idiot.

northstar575 (Canada) 784 Posts. Joined 10-06-2006.
09-16-2007 6:50 PM - In reply to

btw I made a post weeks ago explaining that about 1 out of every 20 losing players will be a winning player after 20k hands.  With that in mind think about how many losing players are winners in short term 

Coookies (United States) 59 Posts. Joined 11-10-2006.
09-16-2007 6:51 PM - In reply to

hi

Cmoney3 (United States) 7,142 Posts. Joined 12-26-2005.
09-16-2007 7:03 PM - In reply to

have you ever played less than 200 hands and won more than 20 buy ins?

and also northstar have you ever played 500 hands and had a VPIP of 94%?


ShortStack3 (United States) 2,817 Posts. Joined 03-01-2006.
09-16-2007 7:03 PM - In reply to

img154/5340/pt373bbgv1.jpg

northstar575 (Canada) 784 Posts. Joined 10-06-2006.
09-16-2007 7:10 PM - In reply to

won 10 buy ins before in 150 hands but I was playing probably only 30% of hands.  You just answered your own question btw the guy is playing 94% he is either gonna win tons of money or lose tons of money.  If I played 94% of hands I could run that hot yes...  Sure it's unlikely to run that hot but not nearly as crazy as you think especially when you factor in that someone is bound to do this across thousands of players. 

I never said the guy was a good player (hence the 94%).  Just that these stats far from prove he is cheating.  And when people cite river aggresion really makes me wonder if they know how to intepret these numbers.
   
Why don;t people post entire hand histories for the guy?  Why just one or two hands?  You need way more info then what people are posting to be so sure he is chaeting. 
 
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