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This was a must fold imo....am i retarded , sick etc?
This is a $50 double or nothing....top 5 get $100...6th nada....
PokerStars Game #22541108770: Tournament #124285378, $50+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/12/01 19:26:13 ET
Table '124285378 1' 10-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: nattybohman (2690 in chips)
Seat 2: ElDonkeyFish (1335 in chips)
Seat 3: GoHDeviL (2550 in chips)
Seat 8: SRIVICK (1990 in chips)
Seat 9: Dixx (460 in chips)
Seat 10: 53495 (5975 in chips)
nattybohman: posts the ante 15
ElDonkeyFish: posts the ante 15
GoHDeviL: posts the ante 15
SRIVICK: posts the ante 15
Dixx: posts the ante 15
53495: posts the ante 15
Dixx: posts small blind 75
53495: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ElDonkeyFish [Ac Ad]
nattybohman: raises 300 to 450
ElDonkeyFish has timed out
ElDonkeyFish: folds
ElDonkeyFish is sitting out
GoHDeviL: folds
SRIVICK: folds
ElDonkeyFish has returned
Dixx: calls 370 and is all-in
53495: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [Jh Qc 9s]
53495: checks
nattybohman: checks
*** TURN *** [Jh Qc 9s] [2s]
53495: checks
nattybohman: checks
*** RIVER *** [Jh Qc 9s 2s] [Js]
53495: checks
nattybohman: bets 300
53495: folds
Uncalled bet (300) returned to nattybohman
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nattybohman: shows [Jc Jd] (four of a kind, Jacks)
nattybohman collected 10 from side pot
Dixx: shows [Kc Td] (a straight, Nine to King)
nattybohman collected 1425 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1435 Main pot 1425. Side pot 10. | Rake 0
Board [Jh Qc 9s 2s Js]
Seat 1: nattybohman showed [Jc Jd] and won (1435) with four of a kind, Jacks
Seat 2: ElDonkeyFish folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: GoHDeviL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: SRIVICK (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Dixx (small blind) showed [Kc Td] and lost with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 10: 53495 (big blind) folded on the River
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Wait wait wait, were you already sitting out or were you debating a call? If you folded there because you were scared of losing that is the dumbest thing i have ever seen! Lucky for you it worked out
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hytop
(United States)
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12-01-2008 6:52 PM
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i was debating the call...the seconds ran down...
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and if the board came AAx you would have killed yourself by now.
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okse54
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12-01-2008 6:56 PM
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if he shoved i would insta fold, since he only made it 450, if u call and the shorty calls, it will almost defenitly get checked down every time and now u make the short have to beat the other guy and u with AA. problems include when shorty folds or when shorty tripples up. i probably still lean towards a fold but i defenitly have to think about it
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Here's the Nash Equilibrium for this spot:
| PU |
CA |
OC |
Range |
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| 21.3%, 22+ A3s+ A9o+ K7s+ KJo+ Q8s+ QJo J8s+ T8s+ 98s<<what he should be shoving if all opponents are calling correctly |
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| UTG+1 |
| 0.0%, <<Your calling range |
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| CO |
0.5%, AA |
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| BU |
0.5%, AA |
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| SB |
0.5%, AA |
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| BB |
1.4%, QQ+ |
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| CO |
| 0.0%, |
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| BU |
0.5%, AA |
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| SB |
0.5%, AA |
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| BB |
0.9%, KK+ |
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| BU |
| 0.0%, |
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| SB |
0.5%, AA |
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| BB |
1.4%, QQ+ |
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| SB |
| 9.5%, 66+ A9s+ ATo+ KQs |
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| BB |
2.3%, TT+ |
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| BB |
| 0.5%, AA |
ICM Nash Calculator Results
Add to this that other people are often really bad and might bust before they should, and this is even an easier fold than Nash suggests.
Good fold.
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hytop
(United States)
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12-01-2008 7:17 PM
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wow , thanks for the nash. and input. TBH i was folding 100% - i was calling my wife over too look , but damn the pokerstars clock....
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Interesting. I would almost certainly have shoved there. Shows how very very little I know about poker
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Interesting. I would almost certainly have shoved there. Shows how very very little I know about poker
this is a DON thats y folding AA on bubble or 7handed if u have a top 3 stack etc and r virtually guaranteed to cash then folding is fine. however in this spot i think calling the original raise is better like okse said since u further increase odds of eliminating shortstack
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