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AK UTG turbo sng..Raise, Call or Fold??+ Extra Q for Ship Happens (or any1 eles)
Rimz (Canada) 711 Posts. Joined 02-13-2006.
09-29-2008 10:03 PM

Question 1: What do you do here?Like 6 hands in... No reads, all I see is he is a silverstar....Whats his range? I figure JJ+, AK?


PokerStars Game #20799641083: Tournament #111191372, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/09/29 19:19:47 ET
Table '111191372 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Rimz (1570 in chips)
Seat 2: FULLOHAD (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: Steph_888 (1300 in chips)
Seat 4: phalv (1700 in chips)
Seat 5: werd2u (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: mleone3333 (1260 in chips)
Seat 7: SABICCS (1750 in chips)
Seat 8: JurassicShip (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: fanta-kasten (1480 in chips)
JurassicShip: posts small blind 15
fanta-kasten: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rimz [As Kh]
Rimz: raises 90 to 120
FULLOHAD: folds
Steph_888: folds
phalv: folds
werd2u: folds
mleone3333: raises 240 to 360
----------------------------------------------


Question 2:  I remeber Ship Happens a respeceted sng player says he or other good sng players would not raise 99 in EP in a unopened pot early on in a sng?? Do you call or fold?? Can you justify this please, bc I would normally raise this...I got this question from your interesting hand with Spacegravy ( i think) in $109 turbo, where you had a FH on the river and folded...

rimz

 
 
 

L0bstaM0bsta (United States) 7,917 Posts. Joined 12-14-2006.
09-30-2008 12:16 AM - In reply to

Ok...please ask any seroius SNG grinder what they do with 99 UTG to the CO and anyone who has a clue what they are doing is limping


mcc3504 (United States) 83 Posts. Joined 10-26-2007.
09-30-2008 12:17 AM - In reply to

push all day any day 


swd805 (United States) 2,040 Posts. Joined 08-05-2007.
09-30-2008 12:18 AM - In reply to

L0bstaM0bsta: 

Ok...please ask any seroius SNG grinder what they do with 99 UTG to the CO and anyone who has a clue what they are doing is limping



now ur even gonna say u dont open 99 fron hijack or CO? wow this leveling is starting to tilt me.

L0bstaM0bsta (United States) 7,917 Posts. Joined 12-14-2006.
09-30-2008 12:19 AM - In reply to

mleone3333           3,097$1.44  $13  12%$4,445  -PokerStars E<=9


Still like pushing?


L0bstaM0bsta (United States) 7,917 Posts. Joined 12-14-2006.
09-30-2008 12:20 AM - In reply to

spacegravy routinely limps 99 at the hijack and i have seen him do the same at the CO and button...I'm just telling you what the best do


Brain Damage (United States) 485 Posts. Joined 03-26-2006.
09-30-2008 12:23 AM - In reply to

 fold


BillMueller (United States) 14,037 Posts. Joined 05-26-2006.
09-30-2008 12:24 AM - In reply to

 you should any pair first level or lower


mcc3504 (United States) 83 Posts. Joined 10-26-2007.
09-30-2008 12:25 AM - In reply to

L0bstaM0bsta: 

mleone3333           3,097$1.44  $13  12%$4,445  -PokerStars E<=9


Still like pushing?



well given its a turbo and hes prob playing a few different tables so we wont be able to look that up in time....also even with given that info we could still even be ahead but i guess id lean more towards a fold

swd805 (United States) 2,040 Posts. Joined 08-05-2007.
09-30-2008 12:26 AM - In reply to

sheets and beanmo are raising 99 from ep in a fullring sng, but what do they know?????????????????????????????????

L0bstaM0bsta (United States) 7,917 Posts. Joined 12-14-2006.
09-30-2008 12:28 AM - In reply to

swd805: 
sheets and beanmo are raising 99 from ep in a fullring sng, but what do they know?????????????????????????????????


sheets is blocked


beanmo           3,385-$2.19  $121  0%-$7,429  -PokerStars E<=9



 Hrm...looks like we will never quite figure out what they really know



spacegravy           35,909$3.09  $57  9%$110,802  -PokerStars E<=9

BillMueller (United States) 14,037 Posts. Joined 05-26-2006.
09-30-2008 12:29 AM - In reply to

 i watched a beanmo video once.

I dont know if i want to comment further than that at this time.


Rimz (Canada) 711 Posts. Joined 02-13-2006.
09-30-2008 12:37 AM - In reply to

I priv msged jennifear and ship happens to help replyfor #1, 2...It was no level, ship happens in his long thread about his hand with spacegravy, said spacegravy is not rasing 99 from ep early in a sng...and he said no great turbo sng players are...This may only be in higher level sngs, im not sure...I usually play 16's and 25 and will always raise 99 from ep, i consider myself to be pretty good :)

thx in the responses so far...

rimz


L0bstaM0bsta (United States) 7,917 Posts. Joined 12-14-2006.
09-30-2008 12:48 AM - In reply to

 lol I tried at least...


but in all seriousness 99 is a somewhat standard limp for a ton of players and that is not a level


Jennifear (United States) 9,061 Posts. Joined 11-01-2005.
09-30-2008 1:17 AM - In reply to

Question 1:

Shove unless he's good.  This guy, mleone,  is reraising you with QQ+, AK, so the correct answer is fold.  With no reads, it's a shove in a $16, especially at night when the bad players are on and you might be staring at KQ or AJ.

Question 2:

Raising 88+ is good strategy in a winner-take-all SNG.  In a 50/30/20 SNG, the chips you risk are worth more than the chips you stand to gain, so you need to play a tad tighter.  In addition, at the low limits, you have the extra benefit of stacking someone off more frequently when you play it as a set mining hand and they triple barrel bluff you with cheese or call their whole stack off on top pair, bad kicker.  Therefore, it's a hand I usually limp UTG at the $16s.  For the record, it is not horrible to raise this.

 

Hope that helps!


cds0699 (United States) 102 Posts. Joined 05-16-2007.
09-30-2008 1:21 AM - In reply to

L0bstaM0bsta: 

 lol I tried at least...


but in all seriousness 99 is a somewhat standard limp for a ton of players and that is not a level



This man is giving good advice in this thread, I however suck at sng's so w/e but ya he's pretty spot on in this thread fwiw

Also fwiw I suck @ sngs cuz I hate playing them, they make me wanna gouge my eyes out.
 
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