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Annie,
I just listened to the pokerroad interview. (http://www.pokerroad.com/ )
where you claim this
brainwash guy has been trying to blackmail UB.
Can you explain why the big name players have cash transactions with the fraudulent accounts?
If you can comment on someone who is trying to blackmail the company you surely can comment on the evidence he provides.
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 annie duke: | |
I find it interesting that the assumption is that because I did not respond to EDub imediately that I was dodging the issue rather than that I was out hiking with my children, which is in fact the case.
At any rate, I will say it again, the management at UB is a new one. As for the stuff being posted on 2+2 I should let UB respond to that not me since I am not a spokesman on this issue and have no interest in being one. That being said, I have no idea how anyone thinks anything on 2+2 implicates the new management. I have read through it and as far as I can see no one in current or recent management at UB is even mentioned there.
Annie
LOL, nice try Annie. What actually happened was that you responded to the OP, but without answering his question. You chose to disregard his question and instead gave a response that had nothing to do with what he posted. After that you probably when on a hike with your kids.
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u might find easier to get information from annie if ur not so dismissive and jus plain rude actually
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Annie,
Do you directly have an ownership interest in UB?
Do you have an ownership interest in any company that has an ownership interest in UB?
Please answer. Thanks!
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u might find easier to get information from a dog
and jus plain sad actually
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I'm not sure what everyone is really expecting Annie to answer. I'm sure a lot of people here have worked for companies that have had some sort of scandle or something happen they they didn't have direct knowledge of. I highly doubt Annie is in the board room when all the decision and stuff are going down.
I understand that she is the face of UB, along with Phil, but it appears to me that she is more stuck in the middle. I know everyone is upset, but do you think she is behind the whole thing? I think some of you do, and that is your oppinion, I'm fine with that.
Personally, I think she's in a bad spot after making a decision to stay that turned out for the bad. Either way, some people need to have some tact. I wouldn't answer someone saying this crap either.
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| annie duke: | |
I find it interesting that the assumption is that because I did not respond to EDub imediately that I was dodging the issue rather than that I was out hiking with my children, which is in fact the case.
At any rate, I will say it again, the management at UB is a new one. As for the stuff being posted on 2+2 I should let UB respond to that not me since I am not a spokesman on this issue and have no interest in being one. That being said, I have no idea how anyone thinks anything on 2+2 implicates the new management. I have read through it and as far as I can see no one in current or recent management at UB is even mentioned there.
Annie
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Ozzie
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| annie duke: | |
I have no idea how anyone thinks anything on 2+2 implicates the new management. I have read through it and as far as I can see no one in current or recent management at UB is even mentioned there.
how about the fact that their "investigations" are just crocks of shit that admit only what players have already found out. and they alter them as more is found out. if there actually is a difference in new management and old management, why is new management LYING and COVERING for old management? if some "rogue employee" has very damaging information, certainly the higher ups in the company and those doing the "investigation" are aware of it as well, along with sooo much more. if someone like n82 had access to what that employee had, hed have this entire thing figured out in a day. your investigation is a sham... you know it as well as we do.
how do you shills not understand that at least some of us arent stupid? and lying when it's obvious to anyone with half a brain what youre doing just makes it worse for you. seriously annie, for you own sake, either only say things that are true or just shutup.
it's times like these i wish i was religious so i could take some comfort feeling that someday you greedy assholes would truly be held accountable for what youve done and are still doing.
F UB.
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| synesthetia: | |
I'm not sure what everyone is really expecting Annie to answer. I'm sure a lot of people here have worked for companies that have had some sort of scandle or something happen they they didn't have direct knowledge of. I highly doubt Annie is in the board room when all the decision and stuff are going down.
I understand that she is the face of UB, along with Phil, but it appears to me that she is more stuck in the middle. I know everyone is upset, but do you think she is behind the whole thing? I think some of you do, and that is your oppinion, I'm fine with that.
Annie said in the Poker Road interview that she is very much involved with security and the fraud investigation. I would assume to properly be able to help in that matter she would need to have been given a ton/all of information in the scandal that happened in the past.
She knows more than you think or she just lied on Poker Road about being involved with their security.
the quote is at about the 55 minute mark of the interview.
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| ASPoker8: | |
| annie duke: | |
I find it interesting that the assumption is that because I did not respond to EDub imediately that I was dodging the issue rather than that I was out hiking with my children, which is in fact the case.
At any rate, I will say it again, the management at UB is a new one. As for the stuff being posted on 2+2 I should let UB respond to that not me since I am not a spokesman on this issue and have no interest in being one. That being said, I have no idea how anyone thinks anything on 2+2 implicates the new management. I have read through it and as far as I can see no one in current or recent management at UB is even mentioned there.
Annie
"-Answer a question with a random statement that has nothing to do with the actual question"
she said in her post and she said in the pokerroad interview that she was going to wait and let UB, the company she works for, respond before she says anything.
that's reasonable I speak for myself. I dont let my employees speak for me unless I have said "this is what the answer is" She may not know why people were having transactions with the account. It seems that freddy deeb and lyle berman may know the answer, they definitely know more about their transactions than Annie does.
It was a good interview imo. I feel better about UB after this matter knowing that Annie is involved with the company.
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Annie, I don't play on UB so I guess I don't care about all this (so why post here Matty?). It's too bad that everyone on here treats you as the person responsible for all the shenanigans instead of somebody with a very difficult PR job. Anyhow, I'm really posting here about your father. Did you know he used to come into my bookstore and rearrange our shelves so all his books were facing out? He also came into my 7th grade class and read to us about "Prinderella."
Yo,
Matty
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so basically, fuck UB those bastards took thousands from me from rigged blackjack and havent refunded shit to my account. fuck you ub
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| sharkusmanly: | |
so basically, fuck UB those bastards took thousands from me from rigged blackjack and havent refunded shit to my account. fuck you ub
Blackjack is always rigged against the player. Do you mean more rigged than usual? Do you have any proof? Otherwise this is totally irrelevant.
+EV
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| annie duke: | |
I should let UB respond to that not me since I am not a spokesman on this issue and have no interest in being one.
If thats the case why do you continue to do interviews and answer questions regarding the issue. Sure seems like you are a spokesperson during those interviews. However when the questions get tough on the forums you suddenly claim not to be a spokesperson. Weird wild stuff. Do the right thing. Resign from UB and denounce them. In my eyes this fiasco is destroying your reputation.
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| annie duke: | |
...As for the stuff being posted on 2+2 I should let UB respond to that not me since I am not a spokesman on this issue and have no interest in being one...
You are a spokeswoman on this issue because you keep speaking about it in forums and radio interviews. It is clear that your key point is that the fraud was perpetrated by people associated with "old management" and not "new management", and that we should trust that the cheating is not continuing and that "new management" is paying back everyone who cheated in full.
Since we don't know the ownership and management structure, we don't really know what the difference between old management and new management means. Since all the known evidence indicates that UB did not find any of the cheating accounts on its own, and specifically failed to find cheating accounts that 2+2 members held back, it is difficult to believe that new management is paying back everyone.
We still want to know who did the cheating, who knew about it, and who profited from it.
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Obv why Annie sticks up for UB...
(off 2+2)
Did it ever occur to you that her and Phil are shareholders?
She's protecting her own financial interests.
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