Poker Discussion Post

SJCX:

 At this point why would anyone even care what UB says or does or anyone working for UB?

They are clearly liars and anyone that plays there knowing whats going on deserves whatever happens to them.

 

was i the only one who felt sorry for Joe and Ali. She like talked none stop, it was unreal diffecult for them get in questions. I dont know but is this what cocaine does to you??? Why couldnt she take it easy and give some clear answears instead of jappling about nothing. I think she should really take a few min and think what is going on and what she is trying to defend.

UB= New Management, Same Crap....Annie why would you even choose to respond if you have nothing valuable to say? Honestly everything you say is just a failed PR attempt that makes your company look worse and worse...Why not say something worthwhile regarding the case rather then beating around the bush for the questions we in the poker community want to hear? Its hurt your reputation a lot more responding and sticking up for these crooks then it does help save it. Youve worked for UB for quite some time and have some vested interests within the company. Obv you have to have some knowledge of something going on within the management. To be so naive and to think we are going to believe some of the stuff you spew out is ridiculous.

If Brainwash tried to blackmail UB, then it sounds like he had some serious dirt on them. Which came came to light in the 2+2 thread. If everyone at UB is actively monitoring the thread at 2+2 why don't they come out and say something? (Jack Bates did) Rather then have the watchdog community (2+2) have to uncover all the facts that your company cannot or your company choose not to. Many of us are sick of the PR crap that comes out. New Management, No knowledge, New tourney schedule, UB has good people in place. You find more superusers by the day. We want names of these people not online aliases. IF 2+2 can uncover so much with limited resources how can you possibly think that we as people are so naiive to think you/UB have no clue about whats gone on.  Come clean about the crimes committed previously or the ships sinks. We want pros names, superuser names the works. Why not involve interpol in the operation, after all it is international fraud/Money laundering and a whole list of other crimes they'd be interested. Or is Haim going to get the AJ Green treatment...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=237495

starts around post 82...id reset your options to allow 50 posts per page otherwise youre going to have to switch pages frequently as default is only 10 per...Brainwishdodo is the whistleblower..They took out a few of the images he posted which incriminated a few "High Rollers" because of personal info...

I have the feeling if UB/AP actually disclosed all the cheating going on and actually had to make restitution to everyone it would probably bankrupt the company

When will you all understand that Annie has back end ownership burried deep with in many shell companies - and she is protecting her own ass and her own profits - yet continually refers to herself as not being a spokesperson.  Its all a scam that Annie is a big part of and that is why she continually puts herself out there defending UB -

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=237495&page=95
 
lol good luck read it all will take you many hours:((

ace1won:

I have the feeling if UB/AP actually disclosed all the cheating going on and actually had to make restitution to everyone it would probably bankrupt the company

LOL @ Annie's interview. She comes off horribly and avoids the questions there just as she has here. Also, she said Rizen left UB because he was worried about the publicity of the 60 mins interview and still claims UB is the safest site on the net. True?

Mark 

annie duke:

Whether or not the poster was trying to blackmail the company has no bearing on truth or untruth of the postings themselves. 

Annie

I smell stinky feet, or something just smells really bad here. 

RichardHurtz:

annie duke:

I should let UB respond to that not me since I am not a spokesman on this issue and have no interest in being one.

If thats the case why do you continue to do interviews and answer questions regarding the issue. Sure seems like you are a spokesperson during those interviews. However when the questions get tough on the forums you suddenly claim not to be a spokesperson.

Weird wild stuff.

Do the right thing. Resign from UB and denounce them. In my eyes this fiasco is destroying your reputation.

Constapissed:

synesthetia:

I'm not sure what everyone is really expecting Annie to answer.  I'm sure a lot of people here have worked for companies that have had some sort of scandle or something happen they they didn't have direct knowledge of.  I highly doubt Annie is in the board room when all the decision and stuff are going down.

I understand that she is the face of UB, along with Phil, but it appears to me that she is more stuck in the middle.  I know everyone is upset, but do you think she is behind the whole thing?  I think some of you do, and that is your oppinion, I'm fine with that.

Annie said in the Poker Road interview that she is very much involved with security and the fraud investigation. I would assume to properly be able to help in that matter she would need to have been given a ton/all of information in the scandal that happened in the past.

She knows more than you think or she just lied on Poker Road about being involved with their security.

the quote is at about the 55 minute mark of the interview.

annie duke:

I did not conduct the investigation.  I am not intimately involved with the investigation.  I am not a spokesperson for the investigation.

this corrupt, thieving site pays you to be its face... hell, i imagine you probably own a piece of it.  maybe you should consider getting intimately involved, huh?

honestly, if youre not part of the solution, youre part of the problem... quit being part of the fucking problem.