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ok so after Marco loses HU in the 1k to potripper (when potripper called his huge all in raise on the turn with T high, Marco had a 9 high flush draw) and reads a few posts suggesting foul play in the coming days, he requests the HH from Absolute... they sent him the HH for the tourny in a scrambled excel file, which he didn't really know how to organize and just kind of put off for awhile... well we are just now looking at the HH again, and it's pretty fucked up cuz Absolute gave Marco access to EVERYONE's hole cards for the entire tourny, not just his or his tables but the entire field...
well it only takes a few hands to realize potripper could see the cards, but not what is coming on the flop/turn/riv... I was already 99% sure from seeing Marco's hands and some HH's other ppl had posted, but this is just unreal how he plays each hand... there is no way someone could bluff like he does and value bet like he does without being able to know what their opponents hold, it really is undeniable...
working on getting the scrambled excel file into a PXF replayer now, the guys working on it told me it's like a puzzle and shouldn't be too long before they have potripper's tables/hands up...
gonna be a shitstorm on here when you guys see this...
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It is likely that the person / people who are responsible for this were involved in programming the software and not in the administration of the site.
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For real. These guys are not gonna cry wolf. Many were actually against the typical tin foil hat thread for various reasons. This is real, beleive it.
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dpottz
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10-13-2007 8:25 PM
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SCARFACE_79 - Folds
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
JOSIAHW - Folds
POTRIPPER - Raises $600 to $600
POTR0AST - Folds
POKERME420 - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - Folds
DZ00NUTS - Folds
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $450
*** FLOP *** [3s As 10s]
KOOLKEITH13 - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $750
KOOLKEITH13 - Raises $2100 to $2100
POTRIPPER - Calls $1350
*** TURN *** [3s As 10s] [Qd]
KOOLKEITH13 - All-In $2554
POTRIPPER - Calls $2554
*** SHOW DOWN ***
*** RIVER *** [3s As 10s Qd] [Qc]
POTRIPPER - Shows [Ah 2c] (Two Pair, aces and queens)
KOOLKEITH13 - Shows [Jd Qs] (Three of a kind, queens)
must suck to win a hand and bust
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Im drunk and shouldnt be posting
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lol, did we just get leveled????
where did that HH go?
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keith you are a major player in this, you guys played lots of hands together... don't worry nobody got owned as bad as scarface
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what is the scariest thing is there may be some player on AP with this ability who is not completely retarded and is doing a decent job of hiding it.
p.s. after all the 2+2 evidence and the evidence Marco already provided in this thread you seriously are either way too naive or way too retarded if you don't believe this guy could see the hole cards
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gank
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10-13-2007 8:28 PM
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The best thing we can do right now as players, is to make sure this
does not die down. If you have a blog, write about this in it (I just
did), if you owns a website and advertise Absolute affiliate links,
take that shit down. Tell your friends, continue to email absolute and
tell them that this whole situation smells of bullshit, etc.
Cant wait to see these HH. F AP
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WacoKidd - just posting a few example hands won't really be any better than the evidence that is already out there. You need to get someone to help you to sort through this file and extract all the hands from POTRIPPER's point of view. I have written scripts in Excel before to extract data from plain text files so if you send me the file I can have a look and see if I can help with it. Alternatively I strongly suggest you get the guy above to help you. We need to see ALL of POTRIPPER's hands, or people will just say you're being selective in what you show (and they'd be right).
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looking at the past data, there was already irrefutable statistical proof that these guys could see hole cards. The only problem was that many people don't understand statistical proof, and only think conjecturally. You are essentially proving something that was already proven, although in this case, it will appeal more to the "conjectural" people.
There is nothing new here, Absolute will still deny,deny, deny, and say that he just got lucky.
if possible, at a minimum, please post the entire hand histories somewhere.
8ball
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there is def something new here, we have potripper's hole cards...
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8ball did you read any of the replies before posting what you just posted?
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that's part of the damning evidence.
This kind of thing has happened in Vegas sveral times with jackpot progressives (whose rng software is based on the same logic behind online poker rooms). Superusers HAVE to be created to insure the software runs correctly, and on several occasions there have been IGT software developers that programmed in key sequences to trigger the progressive jackpot to hit, then go in partnerships with people to trigger them at different times and split the money with them.
Obv, its the same thing here. One of the developers of the software programmed in a back door to spring a superuser account. Or, rather, it appears that Absolute was EXTREMELY negligent about who could access holecards, and who could not.
The fact that they deny any superuser accounts is f'n ridiculous. How the f did they ever test the software before they launched?
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^^ lol
there are many other reasons why they would deny it sir.
he could easily just be a hacker that beat their system, and they refuse to expose the flaw he exploited..
and like waco said, from the beginning, i knew this guy obviously had the acess to others hole cards, but not to the cards that come on the board, probably explaining a few hands he lost on the cash tables and other stuff that ive read on AP.
either way. this is just another (awesome btw, waco) improvement to prove that he could indeed see what was going on.
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gank
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10-13-2007 9:15 PM
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Was first to post a reply on Mark Seif's blog on Bluff, others should do the same. pointed them to P5's to sweat this thread.
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