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ok so after Marco loses HU in the 1k to potripper (when potripper called his huge all in raise on the turn with T high, Marco had a 9 high flush draw) and reads a few posts suggesting foul play in the coming days, he requests the HH from Absolute... they sent him the HH for the tourny in a scrambled excel file, which he didn't really know how to organize and just kind of put off for awhile... well we are just now looking at the HH again, and it's pretty fucked up cuz Absolute gave Marco access to EVERYONE's hole cards for the entire tourny, not just his or his tables but the entire field...
well it only takes a few hands to realize potripper could see the cards, but not what is coming on the flop/turn/riv... I was already 99% sure from seeing Marco's hands and some HH's other ppl had posted, but this is just unreal how he plays each hand... there is no way someone could bluff like he does and value bet like he does without being able to know what their opponents hold, it really is undeniable...
working on getting the scrambled excel file into a PXF replayer now, the guys working on it told me it's like a puzzle and shouldn't be too long before they have potripper's tables/hands up...
gonna be a shitstorm on here when you guys see this...
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GB2005
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10-13-2007 7:16 PM
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someone @ ap is gonna lose their job
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AP should either stand up or go out of business. they will drop so far down on everyones radar once this fully hits.
i dont know why anyone would want money on this site now. i definitely would not keep a lot on there.
I wonder how many of the other sites have situations like this....
Do you think it is an isolated incident to AP? Just curious?
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i hope that any players that think AP will ever admit that something happened realize the reason that they are denying it. there is obviously only one possible reason for them to continue denying this after all the evidence that has been found, and that is because someone very high up at AP is involved and others very high up knew about it. that site should be shut down and with online poker not being regulated the only way for this to happen is for all the high level players to remove their money from the site. i also agree that the same should happen at UB because you are now dealing with the same management. you know how the saying goes, "once a cheat always a cheat", and i guarantee you that the same problems will arise at UB somewhere down the line if these people remain in control and people continue to play on that site.
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So Im guessing the 1K tourny on AP will have like 10 people in it now instead of 100.
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lol well if there is 10 players in a 100 k gurantee tourny i think ill still play
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mapunk
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10-13-2007 7:27 PM
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I just love how AP says there isn't a way for them (their support team, whatever) to see everyone's cards. They want peoeple to believe they don't have the ability to do that? How would they be able tocatch people who are colluding? That's just stupid...
This just shows not only do they have these super account, but they also flat out lied in their response to the situation...
GG AP
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yea when I read their response I almost puked, it is what actually triggered Marco to go back thru these HHs... just an outright lie by them.... yea they can't see the hole cards but they can email them out to their players lololol
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dwd
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10-13-2007 7:36 PM
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wow this is so unreal. them sending that out is one of the most incompetent moves i have ever heard of.
edit: aside of course from allowing people to see everyone's hole cards. (assuming AP employees weren't the actual people playing, which is quite probable I suppose)
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pretty obvious to me anybody with any money on AP should get their money out ASAP. If the site goes down, I think your money will go with them.
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So any opinions on whether this is an isolated incident or do you think all sites are guilty of this?
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FiGMan
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10-13-2007 7:49 PM
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oh boy...
TY Waco
POTY upcoming
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it was pretty obvious weeks ago, this full hh is just the final nail in the coffin though
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once this replayer gets posted 100s if not 1000s of ppl are gonna be withdrawing
also can we get an estimate of how soon this will be up?
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