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ok so after Marco loses HU in the 1k to potripper (when potripper called his huge all in raise on the turn with T high, Marco had a 9 high flush draw) and reads a few posts suggesting foul play in the coming days, he requests the HH from Absolute... they sent him the HH for the tourny in a scrambled excel file, which he didn't really know how to organize and just kind of put off for awhile... well we are just now looking at the HH again, and it's pretty fucked up cuz Absolute gave Marco access to EVERYONE's hole cards for the entire tourny, not just his or his tables but the entire field...
well it only takes a few hands to realize potripper could see the cards, but not what is coming on the flop/turn/riv... I was already 99% sure from seeing Marco's hands and some HH's other ppl had posted, but this is just unreal how he plays each hand... there is no way someone could bluff like he does and value bet like he does without being able to know what their opponents hold, it really is undeniable...
working on getting the scrambled excel file into a PXF replayer now, the guys working on it told me it's like a puzzle and shouldn't be too long before they have potripper's tables/hands up...
gonna be a shitstorm on here when you guys see this...
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thank god I made a withdrawal from there couple months ago, b4 all this shit started, and when it comes to AP support, only an idiot would believe them.
gj guys
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when can we expect the HH
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time to get my money off AP lol, damn. i was going to win the 30r their tonight, guess i'll have to win the UB 30r instead
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Not for awhile. We probably won't be able to get the entire table (in pxf), but I'm trying my best. It's hard as hell to sort through the format, and we'll probably end up posting individual hands or something.
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dpottz
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10-13-2007 8:04 PM
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fwiw i've seen a hand history sent from stars before with everyone's hole cards
it was way after the tourney happened, when it was archived or whatever, but it had everyone's cards visible
edit: i have no doubt AP has a superuser account thing, and the HH proves it, but the existence of the HH w/ everyone's cards listed doesn't necessarily prove it. nawmsayin?
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i agree, you cant jump to any conclusions yet.
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yea I would imagine every site keeps a "master HH" for records or w/e...
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donkkkkk, spare me... plz have a little faith in me and Marco, AJunglen, adanthar, Action Jeff etc...
THERE IS 100% NO DOUBT AFTER SEEING POTRIPPER's CARDS THAT HE COULD SEE HIS OPPONENTS HOLE CARDS... period
nobody is jumping to conclusions I am basing everything off FACTS
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the guy played 4 tourneys on AP
$50
$5
$1000
$20
you would think they would hide it a litte better than that
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Ive playd in 1 mtt in my life on absolute and it happened to be the tournament in question. Potripper was at my table and I remember playing several hands with him and Im pretty sure I lost almost everyone. He eventually knocked me out. I would def be interested in seeing this replay in the PXF replayer. There is no doubt in my mind he cheated but I would still love to see the crazy hands again.
These are a few of the hands I have
POKERME420 - Raises $200 to $200
DZ00NUTS - Folds
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $200
SCARFACE_79 - Folds
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
JOSIAHW - Folds
POTRIPPER - Calls $175
POTR0AST - Folds
*** FLOP *** [8d 6d 3s]
POTRIPPER - Checks
POKERME420 - Bets $250
KOOLKEITH13 - Raises $850 to $850
POTRIPPER - Raises $5700 to $5700
POKERME420 - Folds
KOOLKEITH13 - Folds
OBV_DONK - Folds
and
POTRIPPER - Raises $600 to $600
POTR0AST - Folds
POKERME420 - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - Folds
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $600
SCARFACE_79 - Calls $500
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [Ah Ac 8c]
SCARFACE_79 - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $400
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $400
SCARFACE_79 - Calls $400
*** TURN *** [Ah Ac 8c] [3c]
SCARFACE_79 - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $1800
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $1800
SCARFACE_79 - Folds
*** RIVER *** [Ah Ac 8c 3c] [Kd]
POTRIPPER - Bets $2999
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $2999
POTRIPPER - Shows [Ks Qd] (Two Pair, aces and kings)
*** SHOW DOWN ***
KOOLKEITH13 - Mucks
POTRIPPER Collects $12958 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($12958)
Seat 1: BIGREDAK86 (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Board [Ah Ac 8c 3c Kd]
Seat 2: OBV_DONK Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: POTRIPPER won Total ($12958) HI:($12958) with Two Pair, aces and kings
[b]Seat 8: KOOLKEITH13 (dealer) HI: [Mucked] [9s 9d][/b]
EDIT----I WON A HAND!
SCARFACE_79 - Folds
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
JOSIAHW - Folds
POTRIPPER - Raises $600 to $600
POTR0AST - Folds
POKERME420 - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - Folds
DZ00NUTS - Folds
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $450
*** FLOP *** [3s As 10s]
KOOLKEITH13 - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $750
KOOLKEITH13 - Raises $2100 to $2100
POTRIPPER - Calls $1350
*** TURN *** [3s As 10s] [Qd]
KOOLKEITH13 - All-In $2554
POTRIPPER - Calls $2554
*** SHOW DOWN ***
*** RIVER *** [3s As 10s Qd] [Qc]
POTRIPPER - Shows [Ah 2c] (Two Pair, aces and queens)
KOOLKEITH13 - Shows [Jd Qs] (Three of a kind, queens)
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Let me know if you need help parsing it man. I should be able to whip up a script that can parse the file and output it into a format that pxf will recognize.
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| i hope that any players that think AP will ever admit that something happened realize the reason that they are denying it. there is obviously only one possible reason for them to continue denying this after all the evidence that has been found, and that is because someone very high up at AP is involved and others very high up knew about it. that site should be shut down and with online poker not being regulated the only way for this to happen is for all the high level players to remove their money from the site. i also agree that the same should happen at UB because you are now dealing with the same management. you know how the saying goes, "once a cheat always a cheat", and i guarantee you that the same problems will arise at UB somewhere down the line if these people remain in control and people continue to play on that site. | | | This is so off the mark. AP would deny it no matter what. MAYBE there is someone high up involved but to just blanket that as to why they would cover up is silly. The integrity of their software, and ultimately their business is at stake. Coming clean would do nothing but tank the company.
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yea. You said it was an excel file right? I should be able to just extract that to a more parser friendly format ie. csv. I would have to know the format that the replayer expects tho. PM me if ur interested man.
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are people going to pull out of UB too?
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