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Two people will be implicated here, you can probably guess who. One is going to be removed from online poker forever and one is going be removed for a fair amount of time.
I was asked not to post specifics and that AP's statement is going to be detailed and is going to be released Sunday morning.
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In regards to the 1k. I hope they dont do it like when a multiaccounter gets caught, and they just bump everyone up a spot. If they wanna bump up everyone a spot, i dont care, but i just want my buyin back, and all others who didnt cash should get their buyin back (except the multiaccounters, burn them).
Also, wasnt the previous 1k won by an account that was ghosted by the superaccount? And several other tourneys were won under shady circumstances? I hope they go through all tourneys and cash games that were affected, not just the 1k that potripper won.
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The regs provide for certain "Control Systems". It would be interesting to know if AP's "Control Systems" complied with the regs or not.
Addititional, I could be wrong, but I think the individual offenders cannot be banned unless they are employees or agent who are licensed or operating under the companies license.
This should address the issue of the alleged offenders relationship with AP.
If they are banned they would be entitled to a hearing as well unless they agree to their suspension/revocation. That could be interesting, but my guess is that they would go quietly.
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fetaman
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10-20-2007 8:35 PM
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My head is starting to hurt after reading "two implications" ... this is not going to be good.
Nat you rock, as do all the folks who have been keeping this moving in the right direction, but I fear this is not going to be worth the energy one burns to keep the screen glowing.
Mens rea is the difference between murder and manslaughter.
Look forward to seeing the "statement" tomorrow, and based on last series of them, it will no doubt be filled with sunshine and daffodils.
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No jail time? Wow this is incredibly weak.
I shouild say no charges filed?
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Does the Kahnawake reservation have a jail?
Or even laws addressing this conduct?
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I'm certain that the crimes were not commited on the reservation. Does'nt the IP address trace back to Costa Rica. I'm certain they have harsh penalties for theft.
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We should probably wait until we hear what they have to say.
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My point is that there are interesting jurisdictional questions.
Such as does the theft occur in the jurisdiction of the thief or the victim or maybe both?
My other point is that we are in somewhat uncharted waters as far as enforcement of penalties for illegal conduct in this matter.
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vegas is able to ban people forever with some measure of success and harsh punishment for those who are banned and try to circumvent the ban
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^^^^ Lol - You have to show your face in Vegas.
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We, the Players, Hereby Request and Demand that EVERY Poker Site Provide the following Protection and Security, for ALL Players, be they Professional or Amateur, High or Low Stakes, Limit or No-limit, Winning or Losing, Aggro or Timid, and for all time, starting as Soon as is Humanly Possible, reserving all Rights not Specifically Granted to that Site, to the Collective Will of all said Players, and existing for the Sole Purpose of Serving those Players:
1. All "superuser accounts" shall be listed with the Gaming Commission (KGC), and regulated by KGC that they are inactive or perpetually monitored.
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CeJeH
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10-20-2007 9:25 PM
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throw in a 52 inch HD plasma TV and im good
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Nice of you to speak for all of the players.
Al?
RLR
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They can cycle through the Costa Rica IP remotely from anywhere. If they are Americans, then perhaps they can be nabbed on wire fraud charges.
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