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PocketFives just received a phone call from Absolute Poker confirming the suspicions of the online poker community over the past month. While we need to be vague in this post to respect their wishes, we can say that their systems were compromised, and that they are prepared to provide the details in a statement coming shortly.
Part of the statement will include a plan to refund players affected by this compromise.
We are extremely relieved to hear this outcome, as our most important goal in all this is to see justice given to those who were cheated in this process. Pocketfives is extremely proud to have played a part in the process of uncovering the impropriety that has occurred. We would of course like to thank all the other parties who played a key role in this process—specifically the folks that have been posting here and at twoplustwo.com.
This is great news for everyone. Keep your eyes out for the statement.
Extremely Relieved,
--Adam
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My guess would be that anyone who played that tournament would get their buyin back.
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I'll believe it when I see it
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gaboo
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10-18-2007 11:15 PM
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g4b00 in the house this is awesome! finally retribution
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Great job to those that helped to uncover this crap, a monumental day in online poker. They will only admit to shit that was uncovered, just wonder how much more is out there.
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sheets
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10-18-2007 11:16 PM
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From "Quiz Show"
"I'm happy that you've made the statement. But I cannot agree with most of my colleagues. See, I don't think an adult of your intelligence should be commended for simply, at long last, telling the truth."
Congressman Steven Boghos Derounian
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Good read Mark
MARK SEIF: dan druff is an out and out LIAR
FASTCOOKER: theres no way to know when someone is using that?
MARK SEIF: and exaggerator
OMTHROWD: lol
WYWROTX: mark you are a ****ign clown
ROYALPALM: can somebody tell me the search name on youtube so I can
LUCKYKINSER1: about what
UNSEIF: bottom line is cheating took place
ANDY71084: think about it
ROYALPALM: watch please
BIGDOGPCKT5S: yes
UNSEIF: someone blew the whistle
MARK SEIF: i have no problem going on record about that
OMTHROWD: Mark
BIGDOGPCKT5S: cheating did take place
UNSEIF: someone blew the whistle
OMTHROWD: My roomate Phwap is down 20k to doubledrag
OMTHROWD: No exaggeration
LUCKYKINSER1: what did he lie about
ANDY71084: anyone here could use superuser and not get caught
UNSEIF: someone blew the whistle
MENSABADGER: Don't search youtube, search google!
OMTHROWD: You are the liar
ANDY71084: only takes a little poker knowledge
UNSEIF: cheating took place
ARAGORN_II: so no one from AP talked to Dan Druff in the last 2 days?
MARK SEIF: and he is likely to be sued for his libelous and slanderous
MARK SEIF: statements
THEPOKERICON: i think geraldo rivera should investigate this matter
UNSEIF: scott tom and upper ap management
OMTHROWD: Keeping your mouth shut when you know something is as good
OMTHROWD: as lieing
ANDY71084: Chris Hansen ftw
UNSEIF: cheated
MARK SEIF: i dont normally say stuff like that but i read with my own
NICKDANUTZ: LOL@SEIF
THEPOKERICON: fox news alert
MARK SEIF: eyes some of his lies
ANDY71084: have a seat mark |
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Well done everyone who helped in uncovering this!!!!
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Mark Seif has lost any respect I had for him and has lost all credibility with the poker community.
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cmval
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10-18-2007 11:24 PM
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Does Seif have a piece of AP?
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The amount of $ at stake here for AP is astronomical. They'll need to single someone out with all this heat on their doorstep if they have any hope of not going under.
The blanket denial statements (as patronizing as they were) were just to buy them some time while they figured out who there were gonna let fry for this. 3rd party investigations are gonna "find" what they want them to find but they now realize that someone actually has to fry (if they didn't from the get go).
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pzane
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10-18-2007 11:34 PM
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Any admission of wrongdoing by AP should not be an attempt to avoid
audit. If their systems were compromised they are obligated to identify
the impact of this compromise beyond the scope of what has already been
made public. and imho, they're not qualified to conduct this
investigation on their own.
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i'm waiting to see what they're gonna say about scott tom's account observing that tourney... i hihgly doubt they're gonna openly admit much. a 3rd party extensive audit is defenitely needed before they try to inact damage control measures to reduce the scrutiny.
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I'm looking forward to this statement, and I hope it is full and complete, including an apology for deceit.
The fact that they intentionally deceived us about knowing that their system was compromised is a far greater offense than having it compromised in the first place.
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