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So this took place on 6-10-2007:
I was railing a buddy of mine and chatting with him on AIM one sunday evening as he was getting deep in the full tilt poker 215 buy in 400k guaranteed tournament. He was playing extrordinary and was poised to make a deep run. At this point in time, i believe there were approximately 3-4 tables left so somewhere in the 27-36 players range. If i recall correctly, my buddy had a top 5 stack, and possibly even top 3. This was some time ago, so forgive me but a few of the details may be a bit foggy. Let it be known that my buddy was not staked in this tournament by the player in question so the overwhelming comment of people taking over their stakee's accounts is a null and void point. Out of nowhere around this point of the tournament, SpanishKey, also known here on P5's as Aaron Been came on the rail asking my buddy if he had AIM. My buddy didn't respond. SpanishKey was persistant, and after a few attempts at asking him if he had AIM, my buddy finally responded something along the lines of "no, but PM me on P5s if you want to talk." I was pretty interested to see what was so urgent, and i was happy that my buddy was filling me in. Aaron Been on the PM in a nutshell asked my buddy for an undisclosed amount of money (meaning i didnt ask how much he offered) to purchase his account for the rest of the tournament. My buddy on AIM was like, WTF, and basically took this as a slap in the face. My friend was a ranked player at that time, and was fully confident in his skills to take the tournament down on his own, and felt like he would be giving up alot of equity to sell off his account. He denied Mr. Been the invitation and went on to final table this tournment for a very nice 5 figure score.
I guess my point of this is a couple of things. It is very naive to think that this is only going on amongst a few players. This issue may be WAAAAAAAAY more widespread than we think. This is just one example of an attempted cheat attempt gone wrong. Now, I am not positive that it was Aaron Been (SpanishKey) that was gonna take the account over, or one of his close associates, but i am 100% positive that he had entered this tournament himself as there is a record of it in the Pokerdb in which Aaron finished in 2735/2765. I am also 100% positive that it was the SpanishKey account soliciting my friend, and I am sure if Pocket Fives holds PM records that this message was sent and recieved by my friend.
I will/would be very curious to see if Aaron Been comes here to respond to this, and maybe clear the air as to what exactly was going on that day. There is no excuse on this one that he was trying to help him through some "sticky situations." This was an outright attempt to purchase someone's account. I guess I am not savvy on all the rules and technicallities of the online poker sites, but this has to be not tollerated, and i commend my buddy and give him mad props to deny this attempt and play the tournament on his own, and give him alot of credit for placing highly in a sunday major final table out of almost 3000 players.
MJ P.I.
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Wow, mattg that sucks, especially if he rubbed it in your face...did he have a name?
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The rules used to say you can't have multiple accounts. Now it's you can't log into multiple accounts for any reason (see neverwin.) I don't know any rules that deal with what kind of deals you are allowed to make or to what extent you are allowed to control the action.
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jerro - take a hint, if he wanted to expose the players idenity, he would have. The player knows who he is. I mean, who was it Matt? ;)
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fwiw Aaron, Im pretty sure stars (no clue about FTP) has forbidden this since AJ's win from a buyout.
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I am also pretty sure he wasn't trying to buy a PIECE of the action unless by PIECE he meant the account.
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Yeah if I was cheated out 17K then had that player rub it in my face id definately say his name if i hadnt made my peace with him by now...thats fkd up = (
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i dont give a fuk wht anyone says. this cheating shit is inexcusable and should be banned. in fact, all the sites shud enforce action against this. fukin cheaters. heres wishing u go busto in the most horrible way
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Yeah well obv he wanted the account, so he could log in on a break and let JJ finish off the tourny he just bought a big stack in ;) (kidding)
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Alright Ship it was me, I dominated mattg HU for the paris package, guilty as charged lol ;)
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Whenever I'm playing against one of the guys from the group Matt is talking about I just assume that I'm playing against the backer because he will tell them what to do over AIM or in person.
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Juanda87 i think ur having jus a lil too much fun with this.
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i didnt know i was playing against a group. I just know of this single instance with this player and his friend. Is there some group I dont know about, cuz this player has not been mentioned as being connected to the mantis JJ crowd.
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huh? group. Okie someone knows more than we do about this player mattg bubbled to HU for the paris package, and his name rhymes with BaronDeen.
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Itd be nice to have a little list of who is backed by who so you know who ur playing against late
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