Poker Discussion Post

Why didn't you raise this pf? Makes no sense at all. 

 so you got it all-in in an unraised pot with just top pair and you call the guy an idiot. lol.

 I can explain me not raising pf, in this tourny every1 calls a preflop raise with any hand after they have already limped, never fails. So based on history of a $4 180 I never raise this prf.  I do quite well in tournament play just because I know how each tournament "works".

And yeah he is an idiot because I see this play a lot in 180's, call down with Ax until you hit, usually they will lose 1/2 their stack happily with it.

AeroJim:

 I can't explain me not raising pf, in this tourny every1 calls a preflop raise with any hand after they have already limped, never fails. So based on history of a $4 180 I never raise this prf.

AeroJim:

 I can't explain me not raising pf, in this tourny every1 calls a preflop raise with any hand after they have already limped, never fails. So based on history of a $4 180 I never raise this prf.

 youre never getting raised on the turn by anything you beat

 agree, fold this to the re-raise but do I really raise this prf.

A lot of times I find myself fire a C-bet into a big pot with A Q hi against 2 others.

IMC on this?

Raise pf to 200. Maybe 1 caller (the a4 guy or they may all fold). C/R all in on the flop. You get it all in as a huge favorite. It's the absolute best you can do. All you can do is make the best decisions on each street.

Hell, you could lead out the flop and A4 is probably gonna raise you anyway in that tourney.

Here's a simple formula that will help you with raising in the low limits.  It's not perfect, but it will keep you out of trouble.

- Raise 3xBB
- Add 1x for every limper.
- Since you'd rather not play out of position, charge them 1x moer for calling when you are playing out of the blinds.
- If the total raise is more than 30% of your stack, consider shoving in lieu of raising.

In this scenario:

3xBB+4 limpers+1 for being in the blinds=8x=160.

Hope that helps!

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In this hand, raise to 160 preflop and you'll likely narrow the field somewhat.  As played, you don't have a huge hand on the turn.  Fold to his raise, because your hand is merely a bluff catcher.  When you call 10 preflop, you have no way of knowing whether AQ is the best hand on a A89 flop.  Chances are it's not!  In a five way pot, AQo is 55% to win in this situation, even against 4 totally random hands! 

SOMP's no idiot for calling with A4o in a $4.40 game over 2 limpers with 75-1 odds.  In fact, in a game where people will stack off in an unraised pot with just one pair, as you did, his limp was +EV! (though he probably made the right move by accident, as evidenced by his poor call on the flop)

Jennifear Pwns 

riverdrowns:

 so you got it all-in in an unraised pot with just top pair and you call the guy an idiot. lol.

personally i am fine with not raising this pre, it is the first level and there will be heaps of opportunities for the droolers to give you their chips.

the caveat of not raising it however is that you dont go broke with TPGK in a 6way pot.

wp SOMP

Calling his turn raise isn't that bad really, when you consider your odds relative to his potential hands.  He's really very short, and there's quite a few Ahxh hands that he's probably going to play like this, as well as possibly some combo draws, and occasionally worse aces as well. 

Do you expect him to fold AJo to your turn bet?  Obviously you don't if you're making this bet, so I can't see a call being bad at all.  Seems like a pretty standard hand that you played fine.  Obviously his min raise rather than just pushing in the extra few chips may be slightly telling, but I don't think you can read enough into it to get away here.