Poker Discussion Post

 if its Qs9s then yea i call. if u hit ur lookin at a triple up

I call since 300 bb stacks are fun to play and there is always another tourney or something else to do in Vegas.

 Jesus that's annoying. I'd prob fold just cause the early levels of Venetian are so easy to accumulate chips. He obv hit or this wouldn't be posted but a nasty spot for sure.

i d love to have gotten it in with a set instead of crushed every day in level 3 or 4 like every trny here this week

 With this stack, i don't even like the call w/ TT but i've never played there so idk.

You're beat by a lot with 2 cards to come that can then beat you and you only invested 300 in the hand, let him bluff away with his whole stack if he is, he'll do it again when you hold the nuts

As far as Qs9s goes, i def wouldnt stack off on it w/ this structure, unless maybe there is a sick high hand jackpot 

elgordo420:

 

the thing is you are calling on a flush draw because two pair does not help you the k does not help you and probably the 8 either, so you guys are calling 120bb on 40 minute levels on a flush draw??

The UTG+1 just open shoved 11.7k? id have trouble calling with TT..

Cant wait to get back to the venetian deepstacks :)

(fwiw, i fold Q9 quite quickly)

shanetrain22:

Your call with TT is probably bad.

Equity-wise this is really close for the BB (stove it), so calling or folding are both fine. If he sucks at poker tho he should call imo, since he'll prob have a harder time chipping up than a more skilled player would.

Actually, I'm calling with Q9ss. Basically worst case is when he's up against AK and a set, and he'd be getting 33% on that (obv AKss is worse, but let's assume the deck isn't quite that cold). The times UTG guy has a set (or worse), your equity goes up big time. Yeah, call.

Is that really how the action happened?  Guy just shoved 11700 into 950? 

This is how you fair against likely ranges:

AKo/1010: 32.78%
AKs(w/one spade)/1010: 28.24%
AsKs/1010: 6.24%
AsXs/1010: 13.40%
8s9/1010: 28.58%
89o/1010: 32.45%
KK/1010: 40.64%
KsKx/1010: 36.88%
AA/1010:  38.87%
AsA/1010: 34.55%

These hands cant all be weighted the same way though.  I think the 89's show up very seldom.  One thing people don't take into account enough when they flop these moster combo draws is how the fair against higher flush draws.  Higher flush draws are increasingly likely the more players are in the pot.  When he just has AspXsp you are only 13.40% w/ Q9sp.  I think AspXsp shows up a lot more often than most of the other hands that you have the proper equity against.  I think this is a clear fold.

qjuice14:

  When he just has AspXsp you are only 13.40% w/ Q9sp.

The 340's here are pretty soft.  this early in the tourney, just dump it.  plenty more hands to be played and plenty more hours to log.  with the stating stacks there is no reason to go crazy with all your chips this early.

i could see the guy havin an up and down draw and a flush draw here, lookin forward to the rest. 

shanetrain22:

Nah, he already has a made hand on this flop. Q9ss vs (for example) A3ss is 61/39 here.