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Flop spot vs Jordan Kickz
rock3656 1,935 Posts. Joined 07-23-2006.
08-06-2009 2:33 PM

Full Tilt Poker Game #13858213873: $50,000 Guarantee (100012327), Table 39 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:28:17 ET - 2009/08/06
Seat 1: HEINEMEN (7,116)
Seat 2: OUU THE NICK (2,915)
Seat 3: Ngoo_i (3,552)
Seat 4: chicagocards1 (2,955)
Seat 5: jordankickz (4,213)
Seat 6: sam jaradat (2,535)
Seat 7: 4everunkown (4,560)
Seat 8: kayannagyn (2,880)
Seat 9: the_nutshot2 (2,574)
4everunkown posts the small blind of 20
kayannagyn posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 4everunkown [Ah Ac]
the_nutshot2 folds
HEINEMEN folds
OUU THE NICK folds
Ngoo_i folds
chicagocards1 folds
jordankickz raises to 120
sam jaradat folds
4everunkown raises to 400
kayannagyn folds
jordankickz calls 280
*** FLOP *** [5d 8s Tc]
4everunkown checks
jordankickz has 15 seconds left to act
jordankickz bets 520


Jordan is pretty tight solid good and he prob views me as Loose aggro unable to fold an overpair in this spot type of player. I really wanna check fold thoughts?

 
 
 

cotchery89 (United States) 310 Posts. Joined 07-29-2007.
08-06-2009 10:56 PM - In reply to

I lol'd for 5 minutes looking at that michael jackson clip....props to U....and its fun to flat AA

drexxel7 (France) 77 Posts. Joined 03-15-2007.
08-07-2009 2:52 AM - In reply to

Dead Money Dom: 

just start lol'ing and pretending like everyone is a retard for not realizing it was a level so you can save face.


anticure (United States) 776 Posts. Joined 02-15-2007.
08-07-2009 4:05 AM - In reply to

rocky mountain mofo

ONEILLsurfer03 (United States) 22 Posts. Joined 02-23-2009.
08-07-2009 6:53 AM - In reply to

I think its fine bc its very well thought out but even thought parts his range that bet the flop I think that you are ahead of enough of his worse over pairs/ sometimes air but seems pretty unlikely given ur percetion of him. 3 betting pf here for sure defines his range and if you fell its made of of mostly mid pp's once he flats i think you can atleast call once bc if he can ahve 55 and 88 he can have 66,77 and 99 as well. But given how he perceives you what do u think he makes of your range to 3 bet pf?


taypaur (United States) 678 Posts. Joined 01-13-2008.
08-07-2009 6:55 AM - In reply to
8

 bewildered


ONEILLsurfer03 (United States) 22 Posts. Joined 02-23-2009.
08-07-2009 7:00 AM - In reply to

LOL at ppl think rock has been winning bc he runs good. Hes at a Final Tablesssssssssssssssss every night.  Funny how ppl hate on others when they become successful. I mean really who hasnt reshoved air and won a 60/40 and ppl are gonna talk crap about that WOW.


Scheps93 (United States) 588 Posts. Joined 08-14-2008.
08-07-2009 9:37 AM - In reply to

 I think i just got a little worse even thinking of playing it the way Rock did.


awg (United States) 97 Posts. Joined 01-15-2007.
08-07-2009 9:51 AM - In reply to

ONEILLsurfer03: 

LOL at ppl think rock has been winning bc he runs good. Hes at a Final Tablesssssssssssssssss every night.  Funny how ppl hate on others when they become successful. I mean really who hasnt reshoved air and won a 60/40 and ppl are gonna talk crap about that WOW.

They are talking crap b/c he wants to check fold AA on any flop.....

pokerpoker69 (Canada) 883 Posts. Joined 08-09-2008.
08-07-2009 10:08 AM - In reply to

awg: 
ONEILLsurfer03: 

LOL at ppl think rock has been winning bc he runs good. Hes at a Final Tablesssssssssssssssss every night.  Funny how ppl hate on others when they become successful. I mean really who hasnt reshoved air and won a 60/40 and ppl are gonna talk crap about that WOW.

They are talking crap b/c he wants to check fold AA on any flop.....


Its not any flop, but I do agree hes over analyzing the situation and thinking way too hard imo about what he thinks jordans image is/his is. Just bet the flop and stop overthinking and leveling urself

ONEILLsurfer03 (United States) 22 Posts. Joined 02-23-2009.
08-07-2009 10:14 AM - In reply to

i generally agree with u poker69 but i give Mike credit in the fact that he is very intuitive and is good at figureing out what ppl are doing in the moment. That being said if he has a gut feeling i dont think hes wrong to go with it. I mean maybe if his play isnt perfect inavacuum it doesnt really matter bc in the moment he had an insticnt.


TwinMSU (United States) 117 Posts. Joined 11-07-2007.
08-07-2009 12:21 PM - In reply to

 L O L


icufish (United States) 653 Posts. Joined 02-05-2007.
08-07-2009 12:51 PM - In reply to

MarkFSU1: 
Duffy08: 
TheGfactor: 

all that running above expectation if getting to your head man



fyp



be careful if u say this, icudonk will come in here and get his panties all in a bunch


what's with all the bitchassness? seriously though Mark, maybe you should hire a social skills coach

ktyven (United States) 82 Posts. Joined 01-08-2007.
08-07-2009 12:55 PM - In reply to

hmm interesting rocco.... i dunno i prolly go broke, ( bet flop ? call shove) but i admire ur sick mind... i think if ur checkin' flop for value then u have to get it in with his flop bluff ?   dont think im able to get away from this....gl bro


ronkend (Bosnia and Herzegovina) 5,581 Posts. Joined 05-14-2005.
08-07-2009 1:01 PM - In reply to

icufish: 
MarkFSU1: 
Duffy08: 
TheGfactor: 

all that running above expectation if getting to your head man



fyp



be careful if u say this, icudonk will come in here and get his panties all in a bunch


what's with all the bitchassness? seriously though Mark, maybe you should hire a social skills coach



rock3656 1,935 Posts. Joined 07-23-2006.
08-07-2009 1:36 PM - In reply to

 

I feel like maybe I should reiterate although it really doesnt matter any ways, but when I checked the flop my plan wasnt to Check/fold it was obviously to check shove or some variation of the sort.. When he bet the flop it really got me thinking about what he would bet this flop with that I beat. Why would he open up the betting to a highly aggressive player again in a 3 bet pot with a hand I beat? I should prob just bet/call go broke w/e on the flop. I really felt that he percieved my range as big pairs that wont fold. So why would he bet the flop with anything that didnt beat a pair of Aces? He might have KK some percentage of the time, or he might just be fucking around and not playing well who knows. All i know is that when he bet the flop I felt i was beat thats all that really matters to me. I didnt go with my gut though as I called the flop bet and folded to a turn bet, the card was a 9. That would be cool if Jordan told us what he had, would be interesting to see. Anyways flamez away its no big deal to me and its usually the same kids in every thread talking shit who wont ever make it in this game, gl all.
 
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