Poker Discussion Post

From 2p2:

"My name is Ricco Pollan. I want to make this clear before I post this very
important thread.....I really like UB, and it WAS my favorite site to play
for both real money and play chips. I am still trying to get this
straightened out, but it has become obvious that UB is not willing to
refund the real money tourney players who were cheated. I am including
emails that UB sent to me that completely contredict themselves, making me
believe that they condone such cheating................this really hurts
me to do this, but you HAVE to know what is going on.

Anyone who plays at UB knows that they have been having server troubles
for the past two weeks or so. They have put in a new tournament software
that was only tested once before it was put into place for all to use.
They actually held 5 practice tournaments........but all at once.

Here goes..........I played in 4 tournaments in the past 24 hours and they
were ALL cheated in. UB has a glitch that for some reason allowed players
to "rebuy" chips WELL AFTER the 1 hour rebuy period. This means that you
could go "all in" as much as you wanted to gain a huge lead in chips and
not have to worry about being busted out of the tourney. Here is where the
problem starts.......not EVERYBODY knew about this glitch. Hundreds of us
simply left the game (like you are supposed to do)when we ran out of
chips. We had NO idea that we could simply hit the "rebuy" button as many
times as we wanted to. however........SOME people knew about this
glitch......probobly players who participated in the trial tournaments.

I know for a fact (because players told me)that several players rebought
chips at the FINAL table several times and ended up placing in the money
winners......THAT IS CHEATING.....PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

I decided to watch really closely in the next two tournaments to see it
for myself..........low and behold...I saw it happening right and
left.......obviously the word was getting around. But I am no
cheater....so I reported it "on the spot".....and UB replies with "you
must be mistaken".........but we will refund your entry fee for one
tourney ONLY. Keep in mind, that does NOT include the rebuys that I made
during the first hour when you can legally rebuy. I was furious. So I
decided to prove it to them once and for all by doing it myself and
reporting it as I was doing it. So, I made the final table at the 5:30
Feed 500+30 Satellite last night. I finished 7th.........BUT I DID NOT
LEAVE THE TABLE THIS TIME........I rebought......and rebought......and
rebought....until I rebought $32,000.00 in chips, which made me chip
leader technically. I imediately reported to customer service what I was
doing, and I stayed in the tournament. BUT........I NEVER bet on a single
hand, I folded every one, and even showed the cards to the other
players..........AA, JJ, AK suited.......the great cards just seemed to
keep coming. I was sick at my stomach watching great cards get flushed
down the toilet like that, but I wanted to do the right thing. I informed
the final table players what I was doing, and they insisted that I
continue to do so until a moderator (referee, whatever you want to call
it)showed up to resolve this problem. Players started wondering if there
were cheaters sitting right there at the final table.

BTW, the rebuys didn't always show up in the "chat box" either. I have
already figured out how someone can easily pad their chips...........when
you are switched to another table and you have less than 1000 chips....it
asks you to click an "OK" button before you transfer. Well, if you simply
click "get more chips" before you agree to transfer........you end up with
almost 2000 chips when you reach the new table. TELL ME THAT'S NOT
CHEATING.

OK, here is where UB comes in. I thought "surely" UB does not know about
this. That's why I rebought all those chips (which I was charged $5 for
each rebuy....do the math), so I could finally prove to them that it was
certainly going on, and the integrity of the tournaments had been
compromised. Here is the first thing that they emailed me:

Hello,

I have credited your account with $9 which was the amount you invested in
Tourn 21749,which was the only one having this glitch you are referring
to.

Feel free to contact us for any further information.

Best regards,
Glenn
Customer Service Department

You can clearly see that UB says that it was an "ISOLATED INCIDENT", and I
was refunded. Well, I thought........"great, it's taken care
of"........WRONG. That was done just before the 4th tournament I entered.
When I saw for myself that it was still being done, and obviously was
being done all day long......I emailed them again WHILE I was doing all
those illegal rebuys. Here is the next email sent to me:

Dear RICHARD POLLAN ,

We are sorry.
We are fully aware there was an unusual occurrence with this tourney.
The situation in question was that the tourney gave the option to every
single player to rebuy after the rebuy period was over.
Since EVERY player had the chance to make rebuys after the rebuy period
not a single player was given an unfair advantage over any other player.

Unfortunately we can not and will not refund your account for funds you
did use to play nor will we grant you an entry to another tournament

Waleska
Customer Service Department

OK......WHICH IS IT......AN ISOLATED INCEDENT OR "EVERYBODY KNEW" AND IT
WAS ALWAYS HAPPENING?????????

AND THEY KICKED ME OUT??? FOR BEING HONEST????

THIS time, they insist that EVERYBODY had the "CHANCE TO CHEAT".........so
it was OK. Do you believe this? I CERTAINLY did not know about it inthe
first three tourneys until the Final table in the 3rd one...........so I
was cheated because I could have rebought and won the darned thing, just
like hundreds of others could have........only one thing......we all knew
it was CHEATING.

I asked all over the website if anybody knew they could rebuy all the way
to the final table........of course the answer was NO, and now a lot of
honest players are angry.....and insulted that UB would suggeat that they
would have cheated if they had known about it.

Please reply to this post. I have been kicked out of UB because I told
people about the rebuy glitch.........PLUS.......they kept all my
money........that's right....they stole my money.

They will not even let me in to transfer a lousy $3 that is still in my
account. UB does not want to have to refund hundreds of honest players who
had no idea what was going on, and wanted to shut me up, and sweep this
whole thing under the rug. That is what brought me here.

I have rejoined UB under another screename on my laptop with a Proxy
between me and them so I can tell others about this crap.

R. E POLLAN/CEO
SKYNET ENTERPRISES "


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 cosign

listen this is dispicable!  i think you should copy/paste this whole article and start a new  thread titled booted from UB for leaking information ...  i am curious however their exact reasoning for freezing your acct.  also why the hell did you reopen an account?  UNINSTALL this shit site!

Sep 28 2004

Boycott UB. 

pokergranny:

listen this is dispicable!  i think you should copy/paste this whole article and start a new  thread titled booted from UB for leaking information ...  i am curious however their exact reasoning for freezing your acct.  also why the hell did you reopen an account?  UNINSTALL this shit site!

More and more shadey shit happening again from UB.  Why the fuck do people still play on the fucking site.  We should all boycott Ub and laugh as they go broke.