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were both 2 of the deeper stacks.
I could have folded preflop clearly, but i didnt.
whats more longterm profitable
-betting flop, folding to c/r
-check flop, call down
-another way
Full Tilt Poker Game #4486251548: $16 000 Guarantee (Rebuy) (33405414) Table 18 - 2500/5000 Ante 600 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:26:30 ET - 2007/12/13
Seat 1: rusostreet (25 360)
Seat 2: 88_SPIDER_88 (52 328)
Seat 3: GB2005 (203 229)
Seat 4: Vetstadium (43 020)
Seat 5: dummyhyphy (159 519)
Seat 6: P0KERPR0 (259 600)
Seat 7: five_over (51 182)
Seat 8: JaeMills (292 506)
Seat 9: StFred (60 256)
rusostreet antes 600
88_SPIDER_88 antes 600
GB2005 antes 600
Vetstadium antes 600
dummyhyphy antes 600
P0KERPR0 antes 600
five_over antes 600
JaeMills antes 600
StFred antes 600
P0KERPR0 posts the small blind of 2,500
five_over posts the big blind of 5,000
The button is in seat #5
Holecards:
Dealt to GB2005 [   ]
JaeMills folds
StFred folds
rusostreet: I know
rusostreet folds
88_SPIDER_88 folds
GB2005 raises to 13,000
Vetstadium folds
dummyhyphy folds
P0KERPR0 calls 10,500
rusostreet: lool
five_over folds
Flop:
[    ]
P0KERPR0 checks
GB2005 checks
Turn:
[ ] [  ]
P0KERPR0 bets 20,000
GB2005 calls 20,000
River:
[ ] [  ]
P0KERPR0 bets 46,000
GB2005 : pls show me bway
GB2005 has 15 seconds left to act
GB2005 calls 46 000
rusostreet : obc that guy never read a book either
Showdown:
P0KERPR0 shows [   ] a straight, Ace high
GB2005 shows [ ] three of a kind, Aces
P0KERPR0 wins the pot (168,400) with a straight, Ace high
SUMMARY:
Total pot 168,400 | Rake 0
Board:
[ ]
Seat 1: rusostreet folded before the Flop
Seat 2: 88_SPIDER_88 folded before the Flop
Seat 3: GB2005 showed [ ] and lost with three of a kind Aces
Seat 4: Vetstadium folded before the Flop
Seat 5: dummyhyphy (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: P0KERPR0 (small blind) showed [ ] and won (168 400) with a straight Ace high
Seat 7: five_over (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: JaeMills folded before the Flop
Seat 9: StFred folded before the Flop
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considering i don't think he's EVER checking two pair or a set on that flop after he checks broadway to him, no it wouldn't be hard.
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Even raising pre is solid given it's getting deeper in the tournament and you have one of the deep stacks, calling him down is exactly the way to play it because he's obviously calling pre with broadway cards or a pair and he's a tricky player who might pop you with a lot of hands to that flop. wp.
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Yes because hero has a boat almost never. He would have to be checking behind a set or two pair on the flop. I mean no way would I fold KQ there ever.
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GREAT POST and great comments from great players..
WE NEED MOVE OF THIS ON HERE
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durk86
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12-13-2007 8:46 PM
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After your turn call, he continues to bet into you. What do you beat other than a pair-missed draw combo or missed flush. I think a fold on the river is reasonable unless you have a read on villian having air here. And obv you have a read because you called his hand in the chat.
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I play it the same on every street
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i told gb i would play it the same. but i feel like when i check flops like this or say JJ on a QTx board im almost tying myself into calling on later streets.
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i agree and would play the hand the same way...my point was just to take things a step further.....
considering that these are 2 thinking players gb has got to ask himself what hand pokerpro would likely be calling with out of the small blind against another big stack. KQ is definitely a possiblility. So on that flop, assuming pokerpro puts him on a big ace, is it not entirely possible that gb would check behind in the hopes that the board would pair? When the board does pair would GB get any action if he did reraise the turn? When smooth called does that definitely tell pokerpro that he has AK/AQ?
My point is only that yes, against non-thinking players, GB took the optimal line. However, against GB i don't think pokerpro could call a shove with KQ as played, because he knows that theres no way GB is shoving anything that broadway beats.
Knowing you are up against a person who's game you respect, what does everyone here do if the river is shoved and you are pokerpro??? I maintain that a call is not so simple.
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I thought this was an interesting hand as well gb but I agree with what the majority said and that you played it optimally. I think you could possibly fold river to an extremly tight player but never someone like me. I would have played it the same way.
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