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HANDLING MTT VARIANCE???
Stuman123 (United States) 1,544 Posts. Joined 06-07-2006.
10-24-2006 12:45 AM

I know quite a few of you around here, and I have been playing a lot of MTTs as of late and I am quite sick of sngs and cash games, but nevertheless, the MTT variance is starting to catch up to me. I have been trying to keep a steady 5K bankroll on stars, which is basically the only site I play on.  I was curious as to what your opinions were on the best way to pad a roll around 5K with which kind of sngs or cash games. I am experienced in sngs 55 and below. I also have played all cash games that stars spreads besides stud High. I just don't want to be worried about going busto ever again and want to always do it the right way from now on. Any suggestions would be much appreciated, I am looking forward to your replies. Thanks. -Stewart Yancik

 
 
 

stealthmunk (United States) 460 Posts. Joined 05-01-2005.
10-24-2006 12:57 AM - In reply to

Selling drugs, prostituting yourself or any of your offspring, making counterfeit money, robbing banks, or actually robbing people seem like 5 good options to start with.

StIcKyFiNgErS 1,242 Posts. Joined 09-05-2006.
10-24-2006 12:58 AM - In reply to

I think it was Chris Furgusen (sp?) who said he likes to have 100 buy ins for an MTT roll.

Sooooo if you're playing $100 tourneys you would need $10,000

This is assuming all freezeouts

I would wager that you play in the $100 freezeouts/and rebuys, which is a good way to go busto with your roll.

You shouldn't be playing any tourney over $50 on a regualar basis until you have at least 10k....

stealthmunk (United States) 460 Posts. Joined 05-01-2005.
10-24-2006 1:04 AM - In reply to

bankroll management is for pussies and/or players that aren't good enough to be above variance's long claw.

biblo22 (Malaysia) 286 Posts. Joined 06-27-2006.
10-24-2006 1:11 AM - In reply to

stealth AJ does he job well i dont think he need an accomplice

Chazmental (United States) 15,206 Posts. Joined 09-30-2005.
10-24-2006 1:16 AM - In reply to

Re(1): HANDLING MTT VARIANCE???
by biblo22 on 10/24/2006 01:11
stealth AJ does he job well i dont think he need an accomplice
 Huh>????????????????????

Oh and STU nice to see you around bud.

Stuman123 (United States) 1,544 Posts. Joined 06-07-2006.
10-24-2006 1:22 AM - In reply to

Wheres the help this isn't OT? Anddd sorry stealth, we can't all win over 180K in one Sunday...:-)

stealthmunk (United States) 460 Posts. Joined 05-01-2005.
10-24-2006 1:32 AM - In reply to

I'm hardly AJ's accomplice.

If anything say I'm his replacement while he's off slaughtering euros and drinking from their wounds in EPT-Dublin.




Snowslide (Canada) 36 Posts. Joined 10-04-2006.
10-24-2006 1:49 AM - In reply to

become the resident $50 90 person SNG expert

Stuman123 (United States) 1,544 Posts. Joined 06-07-2006.
10-24-2006 1:55 AM - In reply to

I usually play turbo sngs, but would play the regular ones, for I think it suits my play better anyways. What level turbos would you compare the play with the regular 50 sngs? thanks.


WillieDM3 (United States) 976 Posts. Joined 06-14-2006.
10-24-2006 3:01 AM - In reply to

Stu, in the past year, I have become much more disciplined in this respect as well. In my early days of online poker, I was constantly playing too high (and I wasn't as good back then on top of it). I think that several considerations go into the proper buy-in to play in MTTs. The amount you would need will vary depending on the field size and prize structure. (20% you wouldn't need as much bc you'll recover your buy-in more often). You need more to play $20 tourneys with 1,000 people than one with 180. With 5k, given the average field size at Stars, I would be playing something around $20 tourneys, 5 and 10 rebuys, with the occasional $50+.

I'll play $3-10 even. I play quite a few of them. You never risk much, and occasionally you will pull a big payday. The 180 man SNGs are cake too. Take advantage of the easy money instead of struggling at higher levels (if that is the case). I don't mind jumping in the Sunday Million occasionally either, especially with a satellite win. Very few players have the "proper bankroll" for that tourney. However, that's a shot at some serious cash. I'd take those shots occasionally (and do). I think (and many other have said) that the difference between alot of winning and losing players is discipline. GL with it.

WillieDM3 (United States) 976 Posts. Joined 06-14-2006.
10-24-2006 3:09 AM - In reply to

Just to be clear, I'm not saying that you should play the same things that i do. I usually keep about half of what you do online, and that's what works well for me. Just replying for the general point of not over-extending yourself. People always make comments like "why are you playing a $3 tourney Willie?" I just think that with these very large field tourneys, you're well advised to play tourneys where you can afford quite a few buy-ins.


Stuman123 (United States) 1,544 Posts. Joined 06-07-2006.
10-24-2006 10:49 AM - In reply to

I am wanting to know what cash games and sngs to play to handle the variance for MTTs...not what MMTs to play. Thanks.

grapsfan (United States) 6,573 Posts. Joined 06-16-2005.
10-24-2006 10:56 AM - In reply to

Well, that all depends on what cash games and SNGs you're successful at.  With a bankroll of $5k, I'd say you're OK to be playing 5/10 limit (not quite 10/20), 1/2 NL and $100+9 SNGs.  That assumes you can be profitable at those levels.

I'm in the same boat you are, where I'm using SNG profit to pay for shots in MTTs.  I would also strongly consider playing as many satellites as you can and building up T$ for other events as well.

holmes304 (United States) 1,685 Posts. Joined 09-24-2006.
10-24-2006 11:07 AM - In reply to

mix it up.

$20 180 plyr sngs
$5 MTT
$10 MTT
$20 MTT
$3R NL MTT

just getting back into the stars mtt's myself after a long bout with the 180 player sng's. might even try to frequent the $3R MTT too.
 
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