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how bad is this shove?
LubeJobs (United States) 39 Posts. Joined 10-17-2009.
11-15-2009 8:32 PM

Ok, there are 23 players left in the Stars Daily $30k.  I just moved to the table and have no history with any players at the table.  How awful is this shove considering I have less than 20 big blinds?  Am I just being results oriented or was it definitely bad?

PokerStars Game #35414037433: Tournament #219010497, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXVII (17500/35000) - 2009/11/15 20:42:15 ET
Table '219010497 230' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: jeprie4774 (1805934 in chips)
Seat 2: sethz71 (698663 in chips)
Seat 3: mikeli744 (600498 in chips)
Seat 4: kirk112 (642079 in chips)
Seat 5: Speck Ice (645338 in chips)
Seat 6: Mirko_Milano (701564 in chips)
Seat 8: Balotin (2978556 in chips)
Seat 9: TheDudes777 (1282991 in chips)
jeprie4774: posts the ante 4375
sethz71: posts the ante 4375
mikeli744: posts the ante 4375
kirk112: posts the ante 4375
Speck Ice: posts the ante 4375
Mirko_Milano: posts the ante 4375
Balotin: posts the ante 4375
TheDudes777: posts the ante 4375
mikeli744: posts small blind 17500
kirk112: posts big blind 35000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sethz71 [4h 4d]
Speck Ice: folds
Mirko_Milano: folds
Balotin: folds
TheDudes777: folds
jeprie4774: folds
sethz71: raises 659288 to 694288 and is all-in
mikeli744: folds
kirk112: calls 602704 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (56584) returned to sethz71
*** FLOP *** [3c Ah 9c]
*** TURN *** [3c Ah 9c] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [3c Ah 9c 6s] [2d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kirk112: shows [9d 9h] (three of a kind, Nines)
sethz71: shows [4h 4d] (a pair of Fours)
kirk112 collected 1327908 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1327908 | Rake 0
Board [3c Ah 9c 6s 2d]
Seat 1: jeprie4774 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: sethz71 (button) showed [4h 4d] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 3: mikeli744 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: kirk112 (big blind) showed [9d 9h] and won (1327908) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 5: Speck Ice folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Mirko_Milano folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Balotin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: TheDudes777 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

 
 
 

Frictionless (United States) 1,703 Posts. Joined 07-22-2007.
11-15-2009 8:33 PM - In reply to

Just seems like you're folding out everything you beat and nothing you don't. 

Goldenad (United States) 1,478 Posts. Joined 06-12-2006.
11-15-2009 8:36 PM - In reply to

 100% standard shove


sretih (United States) 127 Posts. Joined 03-01-2006.
11-15-2009 8:41 PM - In reply to

I would raise to 100k and fold to an all in reraise.


Shaaarrrp (United States) 8,172 Posts. Joined 05-22-2005.
11-15-2009 8:45 PM - In reply to

 Seems fine to me


MarleyGroup (United States) 290 Posts. Joined 09-15-2009.
11-15-2009 10:43 PM - In reply to

 NH ul


DBo Fo Sho (United States) 3,450 Posts. Joined 07-20-2006.
11-15-2009 10:46 PM - In reply to

shoves fine, ul, wasnt meant to be obv


random.chu (Australia) 370 Posts. Joined 08-21-2009.
11-15-2009 11:23 PM - In reply to

to the people supporting the shove, why is this better than a raise?

Randinho (Australia) 1,866 Posts. Joined 07-02-2006.
11-15-2009 11:46 PM - In reply to

random.chu: 
to the people supporting the shove, why is this better than a raise?


Awkward stack size. He pretty much has to raise/fold to a shove because 44 is a brutal calling hand and any competent player in the blinds will be shoving fairly wide in that spot. An open shove very much narrows the ranges of both blinds. Yeah, when you get called you'll be dominated or racing at best but prob. 80% of the time you're taking down blinds/antes which at this point are significant.

m_hawk_1 (Australia) 363 Posts. Joined 03-12-2007.
11-15-2009 11:50 PM - In reply to

This is a shove all day.

 
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