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HSMTT - $2.5k FTOPS - Gross Spot w/ Middle Set vs Hafizzle
Frank1The1Tank (United States) 2,794 Posts. Joined 04-15-2007.
11-14-2009 6:37 PM
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I've had a ton of chips at this table since very early. My image is prob in between tag and lag. Hafizzle is pretty tight overall but very capable and obv very good.

1. What do you do on turn?
2. Are you ever folding this?
 

Full Tilt Poker Game #16027322555: FTOPS Event #22 (2-Day) (109223926), Table 75 - 100/200 Ante 20 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:10:45 ET - 2009/11/14
Seat 1: KevboyStar (16,626)
Seat 2: JMaster130 (2,912)
Seat 4: tuna_fish_tank (12,438)
Seat 5: hafizzle (20,066)
Seat 6: svetik-cveti (18,292)
Seat 7: raidalot (5,662)
Seat 8: Frank1The1Tank (30,756)
Seat 9: overbe777 (11,977)
KevboyStar antes 20
JMaster130 antes 20
tuna_fish_tank antes 20
hafizzle antes 20
svetik-cveti antes 20
raidalot antes 20
Frank1The1Tank antes 20
overbe777 antes 20
KevboyStar posts the small blind of 100
JMaster130 posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Frank1The1Tank [5d 5c]
tuna_fish_tank folds
hafizzle has 15 seconds left to act
hafizzle raises to 486
svetik-cveti folds
raidalot folds
Frank1The1Tank has 15 seconds left to act
Frank1The1Tank calls 486
overbe777 folds
KevboyStar folds
JMaster130 folds
*** FLOP *** [Ac 5h Ks]
hafizzle has 15 seconds left to act
hafizzle bets 822
Frank1The1Tank has 15 seconds left to act
Frank1The1Tank raises to 1,800
hafizzle has 15 seconds left to act
hafizzle calls 978
*** TURN *** [Ac 5h Ks] [2c]
hafizzle checks
Frank1The1Tank has 15 seconds left to act
Frank1The1Tank bets 2,875
hafizzle has 15 seconds left to act
hafizzle has requested TIME
hafizzle raises to 5,788
Frank1The1Tank has 15 seconds left to act
Frank1The1Tank has requested TIME

 
 
 

Grip (United States) 1,794 Posts. Joined 04-05-2006.
11-14-2009 8:42 PM - In reply to

 haffa fucking khan


hafizzle (United States) 135 Posts. Joined 09-22-2006.
11-14-2009 8:45 PM - In reply to

Frank1The1Tank: 
Ok nh, I'm the fish. Done with this thread.

EDIT: Oh one last comment just because I can't resist. Hafizzle you flopped top set, I flopped bottom set. Your line gave me the chance to fold it (I should have) when 99%+ of other mtters would not simply because they have a set. You have to play a hand pretty fucking awful to get someone to reconsider stacking off in a cooler to you.

But again, I'm the fish, nh gl.



Im going to try to hood this tourney...I shall discuss the hand with you over a drink at the PCA if you like

kushlash221 (United States) 152 Posts. Joined 11-21-2007.
11-14-2009 8:46 PM - In reply to

uh... so... good read... almost??


amak316 (United States) 2,792 Posts. Joined 03-02-2006.
11-14-2009 9:01 PM - In reply to

 

hafizzle > frank the tank at poker (see results, and the fact that haf is a stone cold legend)

frank the tank > hafizzle at trying to win forum wars and make up fancy analysis when he actually made his decision based on what he percieved forum response would dictate (see cornell fiji)

/thread.  lets all just get along.

Frank1The1Tank (United States) 2,794 Posts. Joined 04-15-2007.
11-14-2009 9:02 PM - In reply to
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amak316: 

 

hafizzle > frank the tank at poker (see results, and the fact that haf is a stone cold legend)

frank the tank > hafizzle at trying to win forum wars and make up fancy analysis when he actually made his decision based on what he percieved forum response would dictate (see cornell fiji)

/thread.  lets all just get along.


Results clearly determine whos better at this game. Thanks amak.

amak316 (United States) 2,792 Posts. Joined 03-02-2006.
11-14-2009 9:06 PM - In reply to

I dont know alot about your game, but your forum posts are quite immature, as you didnt post this for advice since you seem to already have everything figured out in your mind..  This thread was to attack haf for taking a line that may have been suboptimal, and your bitter about getting coolered....

My post was not an attack on you at all as I cant recall playing a single hand against you, but haf is one of the best tournament players hands down ive ever played against.  Id be willing to do a small % crossbook of haf vs you in any live tournaments you both play in if you feel so confident im wrong (haf has too much $ to take online mtts as seriously)


Skitz0Frenik (United States) 440 Posts. Joined 02-18-2008.
11-14-2009 9:07 PM - In reply to

Don't know either Frank or Half but imo Half wins this thread by a large marge.


Frank1The1Tank (United States) 2,794 Posts. Joined 04-15-2007.
11-14-2009 9:12 PM - In reply to
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amak316: 

I dont know alot about your game, but your forum posts are quite immature, as you didnt post this for advice since you seem to already have everything figured out in your mind..  This thread was to attack haf for taking a line that may have been suboptimal, and your bitter about getting coolered....

My post was not an attack on you at all as I cant recall playing a single hand against you, but haf is one of the best tournament players hands down ive ever played against.  Id be willing to do a small % crossbook of haf vs you in any live tournaments you both play in if you feel so confident im wrong (haf has too much $ to take online mtts as seriously)



My post was to generate a discussion. Me saying his line was awful, had zero to do with his abilities as a player (in fact I called him a good player who took a bad line). It was him and shankingyou who went on to berate and say all that other nonsense. Me defending my thought process should hardly be considered me having everything figured out in my mind. You seemed to take this as a personal attack against hafizzle when that's not what I did nor the reason for this thread.

That said while I haven't played that many live tournaments yet and have run pretty bad in them, I would still be willing to crossbook action vs him. But just know that I didn't do all of this as some sort of personal shot at him or w/e.

hafizzle (United States) 135 Posts. Joined 09-22-2006.
11-14-2009 9:26 PM - In reply to

Frank1The1Tank: 
My post was to generate a discussion. Me saying his line was awful, had zero to do with his abilities as a player (in fact I called him a good player who took a bad line). It was him and shankingyou who went on to berate and say all that other nonsense. Me defending my thought process should hardly be considered me having everything figured out in my mind. You seemed to take this as a personal attack against hafizzle when that's not what I did nor the reason for this thread.

That said while I haven't played that many live tournaments yet and have run pretty bad in them, I would still be willing to crossbook action vs him. But just know that I didn't do all of this as some sort of personal shot at him or w/e.


Dude you talked shit to me on the table after the hand..We had a discussion already..then u post threads under the guise of hand analysis but your actually talking shit..Im still confused, your saying my line made it obvious i had aa or kk but u still pittsed it? Or your saying it was a cooler but within the fact that you got coolered, i made it obv i had kk or aa but the fact that i made it obv i had aa or kk it still didnt matter cause u still pittsed it?

Or maybe i played the hand in a way where you thought  no decent high stakes reg would play aa or kk in such an obvious manner, therefore you had doubt that i had aa or kk and ur bottom set was good causing you to pitts it?

amak316 (United States) 2,792 Posts. Joined 03-02-2006.
11-14-2009 9:34 PM - In reply to

Frank1The1Tank: 
My post was to generate a discussion. Me saying his line was awful, had zero to do with his abilities as a player (in fact I called him a good player who took a bad line). It was him and shankingyou who went on to berate and say all that other nonsense. Me defending my thought process should hardly be considered me having everything figured out in my mind. You seemed to take this as a personal attack against hafizzle when that's not what I did nor the reason for this thread.

That said while I haven't played that many live tournaments yet and have run pretty bad in them, I would still be willing to crossbook action vs him. But just know that I didn't do all of this as some sort of personal shot at him or w/e.


sounds good, how does 5% up to 20k sound? 

btw ive been around online poker for yrs, you think your the first clever person to try the "posting for discussion" flame post.  If nothing else your alterior motive is to show your thought process and how you are smarter than 99.9% of poker players, as you havent seen the fruit of your labor enough in the form of profits so you choose to get off on random p5ers stroking your ability to merge all your ranges at all times vs people with no history against you.

Gags30 (United States) 4,373 Posts. Joined 08-17-2007.
11-14-2009 9:35 PM - In reply to
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MikeCaroJr (United States) 1,228 Posts. Joined 03-13-2007.
11-14-2009 9:43 PM - In reply to


hafizzle: 
Dude you talked shit to me on the table after the hand..We had a discussion already..then u post threads under the guise of hand analysis but your actually talking shit..Im still confused, your saying my line made it obvious i had aa or kk but u still pittsed it? Or your saying it was a cooler but within the fact that you got coolered, i made it obv i had kk or aa but the fact that i made it obv i had aa or kk it still didnt matter cause u still pittsed it?

Or maybe i played the hand in a way where you thought  no decent high stakes reg would play aa or kk in such an obvious manner, therefore you had doubt that i had aa or kk and ur bottom set was good causing you to pitts it?



this is by far the most awesome thing I've ever read on p5s hahahaha

Frank1The1Tank (United States) 2,794 Posts. Joined 04-15-2007.
11-14-2009 9:47 PM - In reply to
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amak316: 
sounds good, how does 5% up to 20k sound? 

btw ive been around online poker for yrs, you think your the first clever person to try the "posting for discussion" flame post.  If nothing else your alterior motive is to show your thought process and how you are smarter than 99.9% of poker players, as you havent seen the fruit of your labor enough in the form of profits so you choose to get off on random p5ers stroking your ability to merge all your ranges at all times vs people with no history against you.


Depending on how our schedules pair up, then fine w/e. Not going to do this for just a few tournies though. It's tough when he lives on the opposite coast as me.

amak316 (United States) 2,792 Posts. Joined 03-02-2006.
11-14-2009 9:52 PM - In reply to

fair enough, but if its +EV for you even if you both were only play one common live tournament togethor you still stand to profit by it...

offers on the table, gl in the future.  Not trying to stir up things in this thread this whole thing just seemed absurd to me.


GutShotBen (Canada) 343 Posts. Joined 09-28-2006.
11-14-2009 10:06 PM - In reply to


 
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