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HSMTTs- Another isane disgusting spot vs the Legend frankthetank( in ftops 1k)
The Lab Rat (United States) 901 Posts. Joined 04-04-2008.
11-09-2009 11:13 PM

Ok so Frank and I know each other, have a little bit of history together. he knows im on the tighter side  and I know hes on the laggy side. can say what you want about my preflop flat and turn flat call but Im just experimenting with different things. Anyways do you call here on the river? Also gotta notice bb still has to act behind. Ill post my analysis and results later.




Full Tilt Poker Game #15916447835: FTOPS Event #12 (109222744), Table 211 - 140/280 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:34:13 ET - 2009/11/09
Seat 1: zerocashout (20,184)
Seat 2: jimmydow (24,910)
Seat 3: Frank1The1Tank (23,582)
Seat 4: bentebabe69 (14,947)
Seat 5: The Lab Rat (8,586)
Seat 6: GB2005 (14,329)
zerocashout antes 25
jimmydow antes 25
Frank1The1Tank antes 25
bentebabe69 antes 25
The Lab Rat antes 25
GB2005 antes 25
GB2005 posts the small blind of 140
zerocashout posts the big blind of 280
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to The Lab Rat [9s Js]
jimmydow folds
CalBandGreat (Observer): yeah EPT def different rate then WPT
Frank1The1Tank raises to 705
bentebabe69 folds
The Lab Rat calls 705
GB2005 folds
zerocashout calls 425
*** FLOP *** [9c Ah 6c]
zerocashout checks
Frank1The1Tank checks
The Lab Rat checks
*** TURN *** [9c Ah 6c] [Jd]
zerocashout checks
Frank1The1Tank has 15 seconds left to act
Frank1The1Tank bets 1,375
The Lab Rat calls 1,375
zerocashout has 15 seconds left to act
zerocashout has requested TIME
zerocashout calls 1,375
*** RIVER *** [9c Ah 6c Jd] [Th]
zerocashout checks
Frank1The1Tank has 15 seconds left to act
Frank1The1Tank has requested TIME
Frank1The1Tank bets 4,875
The Lab Rat has 15 seconds left to act
The Lab Rat:

 
 
 

rivverkiller (Canada) 5,379 Posts. Joined 02-25-2006.
11-10-2009 3:45 AM - In reply to

Gags30: 

 i call



You would

SS-TP (Canada) 569 Posts. Joined 02-05-2006.
11-10-2009 4:02 AM - In reply to

Frank1The1Tank: 
Lol @ not balancing your range vs regs you play a lot with just because its an mtt.


Guess you missed tha part where I said "for the most part"

Duffy08 (United States) 2,813 Posts. Joined 06-11-2007.
11-10-2009 6:08 AM - In reply to

why are you flatting the turn with the bb still to act ?

raise turn fold river


willbec1 (United States) 604 Posts. Joined 02-08-2008.
11-10-2009 7:44 AM - In reply to

Duffy08: 

why are you flatting the turn with the bb still to act ?

raise turn fold river




are you raise folding or raise calling vs 1th1

vats12 (Canada) 347 Posts. Joined 11-20-2008.
11-10-2009 10:47 AM - In reply to

is shoving the turn horrible?


tbt4653 (United States) 64 Posts. Joined 10-09-2006.
11-10-2009 10:53 AM - In reply to

Fold pre, not nearly deep enough to call here with J9s.  River's an easy fold, he's betting into two people when a card that hits both of their ranges hard appears on the river, he's not bluffing ever I wouldn't think. 


mattg1983 (United States) 4,933 Posts. Joined 02-21-2005.
11-10-2009 11:18 AM - In reply to

 Ape wins thread obv


mattg1983 (United States) 4,933 Posts. Joined 02-21-2005.
11-10-2009 11:20 AM - In reply to

tbt4653: 

Fold pre, not nearly deep enough to call here with J9s.  River's an easy fold, he's betting into two people when a card that hits both of their ranges hard appears on the river, he's not bluffing ever I wouldn't think. 


I dont think flatting is bad, as long as he realized he is not calling for implied odds, but to rep a big pair and play postflop accordingly. And of course as a back up plan make two pair that he has to fold on the river :)

Frank1The1Tank (United States) 2,805 Posts. Joined 04-16-2007.
11-10-2009 12:46 PM - In reply to
100

Lol. I can't wait for results to be posted. I like ape's thought process, but that's exactly how I felt most mtters would be playing. It's unfortunate that its one step behind though.


Skitz0Frenik (United States) 442 Posts. Joined 02-18-2008.
11-10-2009 12:51 PM - In reply to

Frank1The1Tank: 

Lol. I can't wait for results to be posted. I like ape's thought process, but that's exactly how I felt most mtters would be playing. It's unfortunate that its one step behind though.



 LOL.WOW.

witcher1984 (United States) 818 Posts. Joined 11-28-2007.
11-10-2009 12:52 PM - In reply to

prob folding river, sup tho lab, and is franks prev post real? lolololol


RoyalCrusher (United States) 4,043 Posts. Joined 02-20-2006.
11-10-2009 12:55 PM - In reply to

Frank1The1Tank: 

Lol. I can't wait for results to be posted. I like ape's thought process, but that's exactly how I felt most mtters would be playing. It's unfortunate that its one step behind though.



well ur just the fuckin man bro

SJUHawks18 (United States) 121 Posts. Joined 03-27-2009.
11-10-2009 1:00 PM - In reply to

He thinks youre a nit .. 3 bet pre


apestyles (United States) 4,703 Posts. Joined 09-05-2005.
11-10-2009 1:14 PM - In reply to
16

Meh, seems like a really terrible spot to bluff but... outleveled i guess


Frank1The1Tank (United States) 2,805 Posts. Joined 04-16-2007.
11-10-2009 1:15 PM - In reply to
100

witcher1984: 

prob folding river, sup tho lab, and is franks prev post real? lolololol



Lol I sound as douchey as possible but its for no other reason than I got no sleep and am up already for ftops.

On a more serious note I definitely agree with ape's thought process 100%. He happened to be wrong here, but I don't really see how some of you can say that a good thinking reg is never bluffing this spot, when a bet looks insanely strong into two people here. I disagreed strongly with the whole balanced range thing, because if your range doesn't at least attempt balance, then the vast majority of hands both players can have become bluff catchers anyway and they are forced to only be calling with like top two or slightly worse and then better.
 
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