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Huge new IP info from the AP situation
N 82 50 24 (Cayman Islands) 5,563 Posts. Joined 06-12-2005.
10-15-2007 11:36 PM

I am making a new thread because this is very important info.  I just found something else that I think is huge. This whole thing could run reallllly deep.

Okay,so, the email of the 2nd guy connecting from the cheating IP address (ie, NOT user 363) is at the domain"rivieraltd.com" -- that is the domain registered with Domain Discreet.

Idon't know why I didn't think of this earlier, but I pingedrivieraltd.com to get the IP at which it is hosted (going to thewebsite doesn't show anything except the email login). The IP addressis 66.212.244.147.

I then ran a traceroute on 66.212.244.147 tosee where it is hosted. That IP address traces back to"po12.dr4.kdca.mohawk.ca" ... which is obviously connected to Kahnawake.

Simple explanation for those who don't understand:

The guy who was on the same IP as the user 363 had his email set to an email that is hosted by Kahnawake Gaming Commission.

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EDIT, IMPORTANT INFO:

JACKBILEDUCT DISCOVERS LATER IN THIS THREAD THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY AN AP EMAIL, NOT A KAHNAWAKE EMAIL.

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Here's a convo I had with GambleAB.  This might clarify things.

(2:05:12 AM) GambleAB: yo
(2:05:46 AM) GIFAFI: yo
(2:06:38 AM) GambleAB: trying to follow the ip stuff
(2:06:40 AM) GambleAB: so
(2:06:45 AM) GambleAB: potripper is playing
(2:06:56 AM) GambleAB: and obv is a dummy account
(2:07:00 AM) GambleAB: set up by user 363
(2:07:08 AM) GambleAB: who has the ability to see the hole cards
(2:07:14 AM) GambleAB: i follow all that
(2:07:18 AM) GambleAB: i dont follow the new thing
(2:07:20 AM) GambleAB: with the 3rd user
(2:07:25 AM) GambleAB: with the ap ip address
(2:07:31 AM) GambleAB: you say hes not at the table?
(2:07:55 AM) GIFAFI: who is the 3rd user?
(2:08:01 AM) GIFAFI: i never said there was a 3rd
(2:08:14 AM) GambleAB: o
(2:08:55 AM) GambleAB: "Okay,so, the email of the 2nd guy connecting from the cheating IP address (ie, NOT user 363)"
(2:09:10 AM) GambleAB: isnt that the 3rd guy?
(2:09:32 AM) GIFAFI: no, we don't know that
(2:09:37 AM) GIFAFI: we don't know who potripper is/was
(2:09:42 AM) GambleAB: i dont follow
(2:10:00 AM) GIFAFI: okay... let me explain
(2:10:13 AM) GIFAFI: user 363 opened up table 13, etc, etc
(2:10:46 AM) GIFAFI: he was on an IP with another guy who shows up in the log, but this second guy didn't open up table 13
(2:10:51 AM) GIFAFI: table 13 was potripper's table
(2:11:09 AM) GIFAFI: it's assuming that the first guy (363) was getting the hands for potripper, whoever that was
(2:11:15 AM) GambleAB: right
(2:11:30 AM) GIFAFI: and it turns out that the 2nd guy on the same IP had an AP email as his registered email
(2:11:43 AM) GIFAFI: we don't know if he was logged in as potripper
(2:11:54 AM) GambleAB: ok
(2:11:56 AM) GIFAFI: but it's clear they were all connected somehow
(2:12:03 AM) GambleAB: so theres a log that shows all of the ips that are in teh tournament
(2:12:59 AM) GambleAB: ?
(2:13:32 AM) GIFAFI: there's a log showing anyone who opens or closes a table as an observer
(2:13:35 AM) GIFAFI: but not as a player
(2:13:51 AM) GambleAB: and that was included in the hh that marco got?
(2:14:16 AM) GIFAFI: the rivieraltd/ap email guy opened a table as an observer, although not potrippers
(2:14:21 AM) GIFAFI: yes
(2:14:28 AM) GambleAB: so
(2:14:33 AM) GambleAB: on a scale of 1 to 10
(2:14:43 AM) GambleAB: 1 being you telling on your sister for eating the last cookie
(2:14:52 AM) GambleAB: and 10 being that senator who outed the spy
(2:15:00 AM) GambleAB: how big of a blunder was sending that hh to marco?
(2:15:09 AM) GIFAFI: 9.845
 
 
 

Numan (United States Minor Outlying Islands) 864 Posts. Joined 02-07-2006.
10-15-2007 11:37 PM - In reply to

second?

edit: grats to N8 on a job well done

CeJeH (United States) 3,564 Posts. Joined 02-28-2007.
10-15-2007 11:38 PM - In reply to

bombshell o rly?

gibler123 (United States) 68 Posts. Joined 09-19-2006.
10-15-2007 11:38 PM - In reply to

nice work!

TheWacoKidd (United States) 25,176 Posts. Joined 10-05-2005.
10-15-2007 11:38 PM - In reply to

standard

sketchy1 (United States) 7,649 Posts. Joined 04-17-2005.
10-15-2007 11:39 PM - In reply to

wow

rmoriar1 (United States) 854 Posts. Joined 08-25-2007.
10-15-2007 11:41 PM - In reply to

gfdsfjdhtzrkjgfxzktxjhdfjkkxjf

nevertilt22 (United States) 508 Posts. Joined 11-27-2005.
10-15-2007 11:42 PM - In reply to

so what about potrippers IP??



Nctrojans (United States) 78 Posts. Joined 06-29-2007.
10-15-2007 11:42 PM - In reply to

obv tell me something i dont know

kmg9000 (United States) 104 Posts. Joined 06-12-2006.
10-15-2007 11:43 PM - In reply to

Wow nice work

TheRealAjax (United States) 81 Posts. Joined 08-15-2007.
10-15-2007 11:43 PM - In reply to

If this goes as deep as the Kahnawake isnt this bad news for pokerstars and others too, considering they are connected to KGC?  Maybe i dont understand though. You are a killer detective btw.

bigfatstub (United States) 1,228 Posts. Joined 03-03-2006.
10-15-2007 11:44 PM - In reply to

oooooooooooofta


jackpepsi (United States) 291 Posts. Joined 07-21-2006.
10-15-2007 11:45 PM - In reply to

This AP thing is getting more mind-blowing by the minute. 

How many sites are regulated by Kahnawake?

N 82 50 24 (Cayman Islands) 5,563 Posts. Joined 06-12-2005.
10-15-2007 11:45 PM - In reply to

I wrote "set" to an email.

It means the AP email of the 2nd user on that IP during the tournament was [name]@rivieraltd.com

N 82 50 24 (Cayman Islands) 5,563 Posts. Joined 06-12-2005.
10-15-2007 11:45 PM - In reply to

I think all of them.
 
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