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I am making a new thread because this is very important info. I just found something else that I think is huge. This whole thing could run reallllly deep.
Okay,so, the email of the 2nd guy connecting from the cheating IP address (ie, NOT user 363) is at the domain"rivieraltd.com" -- that is the domain registered with Domain Discreet.
Idon't know why I didn't think of this earlier, but I pingedrivieraltd.com to get the IP at which it is hosted (going to thewebsite doesn't show anything except the email login). The IP addressis 66.212.244.147.
I then ran a traceroute on 66.212.244.147 tosee where it is hosted. That IP address traces back to"po12.dr4.kdca.mohawk.ca" ... which is obviously connected to Kahnawake.
Simple explanation for those who don't understand:
The guy who was on the same IP as the user 363 had his email set to an email that is hosted by Kahnawake Gaming Commission.
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EDIT, IMPORTANT INFO:
JACKBILEDUCT DISCOVERS LATER IN THIS THREAD THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY AN AP EMAIL, NOT A KAHNAWAKE EMAIL.
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Here's a convo I had with GambleAB. This might clarify things.
(2:05:12 AM) GambleAB: yo
(2:05:46 AM) GIFAFI: yo
(2:06:38 AM) GambleAB: trying to follow the ip stuff
(2:06:40 AM) GambleAB: so
(2:06:45 AM) GambleAB: potripper is playing
(2:06:56 AM) GambleAB: and obv is a dummy account
(2:07:00 AM) GambleAB: set up by user 363
(2:07:08 AM) GambleAB: who has the ability to see the hole cards
(2:07:14 AM) GambleAB: i follow all that
(2:07:18 AM) GambleAB: i dont follow the new thing
(2:07:20 AM) GambleAB: with the 3rd user
(2:07:25 AM) GambleAB: with the ap ip address
(2:07:31 AM) GambleAB: you say hes not at the table?
(2:07:55 AM) GIFAFI: who is the 3rd user?
(2:08:01 AM) GIFAFI: i never said there was a 3rd
(2:08:14 AM) GambleAB: o
(2:08:55 AM) GambleAB: "Okay,so, the email of the 2nd guy connecting from the cheating IP address (ie, NOT user 363)"
(2:09:10 AM) GambleAB: isnt that the 3rd guy?
(2:09:32 AM) GIFAFI: no, we don't know that
(2:09:37 AM) GIFAFI: we don't know who potripper is/was
(2:09:42 AM) GambleAB: i dont follow
(2:10:00 AM) GIFAFI: okay... let me explain
(2:10:13 AM) GIFAFI: user 363 opened up table 13, etc, etc
(2:10:46 AM) GIFAFI: he was on an IP with another guy who shows up in the log, but this second guy didn't open up table 13
(2:10:51 AM) GIFAFI: table 13 was potripper's table
(2:11:09 AM) GIFAFI: it's assuming that the first guy (363) was getting the hands for potripper, whoever that was
(2:11:15 AM) GambleAB: right
(2:11:30 AM) GIFAFI: and it turns out that the 2nd guy on the same IP had an AP email as his registered email
(2:11:43 AM) GIFAFI: we don't know if he was logged in as potripper
(2:11:54 AM) GambleAB: ok
(2:11:56 AM) GIFAFI: but it's clear they were all connected somehow
(2:12:03 AM) GambleAB: so theres a log that shows all of the ips that are in teh tournament
(2:12:59 AM) GambleAB: ?
(2:13:32 AM) GIFAFI: there's a log showing anyone who opens or closes a table as an observer
(2:13:35 AM) GIFAFI: but not as a player
(2:13:51 AM) GambleAB: and that was included in the hh that marco got?
(2:14:16 AM) GIFAFI: the rivieraltd/ap email guy opened a table as an observer, although not potrippers
(2:14:21 AM) GIFAFI: yes
(2:14:28 AM) GambleAB: so
(2:14:33 AM) GambleAB: on a scale of 1 to 10
(2:14:43 AM) GambleAB: 1 being you telling on your sister for eating the last cookie
(2:14:52 AM) GambleAB: and 10 being that senator who outed the spy
(2:15:00 AM) GambleAB: how big of a blunder was sending that hh to marco?
(2:15:09 AM) GIFAFI: 9.845
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yawn meaning no fkn shit AP is the one behind this...
TYVM for your work, sir... you totally computer nerd one-upped Nat
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Just so you know, I am Nat, not Nath.
I don't think Nath is really involved.
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That is definitely an issue, lol.
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N8, correct me if im wrong, but this user 363 is some1 who comes in and just watches the table, correct? Is it possible that this person from the gaming comission is watching the game BECAUSE he was sent there to check out the POTRIPPER account to SEE if it was cheating. Maybe this person was sent there by AP. Just because this guy from the gaming comission was watching the table does not mean he was the one that could see the cards, correct?
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I'm all for aboriginal rights but I can;t help but laugh at that last line
The Mohawks of Kahnawake have an aboriginal right to conduct online gaming that is recognized and protected by the Canadian Constitution
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SQQTED
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10-16-2007 12:15 AM
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I am lost. So User 363 (AP inside user) has an AP email address on an AP email server? That's nothing out of the ordinary since latest evidence points to inside job and clears Kahnawake for now?
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I reallllllllllllly doubt that, lol.
363 was watching the table and seeing hole cards, I think.
The AP email guy was not watching the table. He could have been playing on table 13, but he did not open it.
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CeJeH
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10-16-2007 12:15 AM
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Nat said in his original post in the other big thread that this user 363 went 2 potripper's table 2 minutes after the tourney started, and Im pretty sure people didnt start noticing that somethin was up with him in that particular tourney until much later on
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I don't think I'm going to finish law school.
But would I have to relocate?
Location
Djibouti, Djibouti (Djibouti)
Thanks btw.
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nat please tell me this isnt going to slow down the editing/distribution of the poker movie....lol
jk good work dude....f AP
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ok, ty, was just trying to clarify, this is all pretty crazy to me.
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who ya gonna call?.....
INTERPOL!
http://www.interpol.int/Public/FinancialCrime/Default.asp
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tblue1
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10-16-2007 12:20 AM
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Sandler...I agree this is very possible. After all, CrazyMarco himself, while playing in the tourney w/ Potripper, mentioned that people at the table were openly talking about Potripper possibly cheating. He said this talk came up early on in the tourney. Which this could very well explain why user 363(if an early absolute user) was in fact observing the table.
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CeJeH
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10-16-2007 12:21 AM
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I just got an email from AP (some advertising bullshit) so I figgered id take the time 2 tell em how i feel
You guys are a bunch of sick cheating bastards. I have never made a deposit on your crooked sit nor will I ever thank God. Your guys are a bunch of liars and cheaters and now the truth is coming out, and you guys are going down, I don't want any connection to AbsolutePoker.com any longer, so please remove me from your mailing list, and, while your at it, you may want to consider removing your heads from your asses.
Good Day.
I SAID GOOD DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111ELEVEN |
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