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is it really that hard to run a poker site?
mathclub (New Zealand) 6,709 Posts. Joined 01-17-2007.
07-08-2009 4:43 PM

it really doesn't seem that hard to me, i mean you are always going to have software issues and customer service problems, but the vast majority of sites seem to be constantly stuffing up the simplest of things and making themselves constantly look bad.

is it really that hard?

 
 
 

Zunga (Canada) 129 Posts. Joined 01-30-2008.
07-08-2009 6:11 PM - In reply to

 Why doesnt a group of the top online pro's start a site?  They can all be pros and make a killing off the business.  Shocked this hasnt happened yet to be honest.


drglen (United States) 427 Posts. Joined 05-11-2005.
07-08-2009 6:19 PM - In reply to

Zunga: 

 Why doesnt a group of the top online pro's start a site?  They can all be pros and make a killing off the business.  Shocked this hasnt happened yet to be honest.

Probably because creating (business plan, software, servers), running, and marketing the site is significantly harder then sitting around asking how hard it is.

SpankyHamm (United States) 9,085 Posts. Joined 09-12-2006.
07-08-2009 6:28 PM - In reply to

Zunga: 

 Why doesnt a group of the top online pro's start a site?  They can all be pros and make a killing off the business.  Shocked this hasnt happened yet to be honest.

Or find a smaller site with solid software and buy it.  Then rebrand it, add servers and add personnel (IT, Customer Service, Marketing).

I can't see how poker sites can lose money - especially in this scenario since half of the startup costs are gone.  They take rake regardless of who wins.  They get serious cash flow.

TC_Clueless (United States) 400 Posts. Joined 01-21-2007.
07-08-2009 7:25 PM - In reply to

Please direct me to aforementioned "smaller site with solid software" that is for sale. thx in advance.

ragdoll125 (United States) 827 Posts. Joined 08-08-2005.
07-08-2009 7:30 PM - In reply to

its not that hard to run........ but it is hard to get clients/players onto your site. This has been attempted daniel negreanu tried this and got bought out. His site was not doing very well full contact poker i believe. Its gonna be really hard to pull ppl away from the big three because they have it all down for instance depositing and ppl like to deal things with what they are familiar with. Cake poker may be on the rise though. But yes think about all the aspects of what it takes its tough to be a success.


JustKLLinItQ (United States) 953 Posts. Joined 02-10-2008.
07-08-2009 7:33 PM - In reply to

drglen: 
Zunga: 

 Why doesnt a group of the top online pro's start a site?  They can all be pros and make a killing off the business.  Shocked this hasnt happened yet to be honest.

Probably because creating (business plan, software, servers), running, and marketing the site is significantly harder then sitting around asking how hard it is.


Dude...u realize that is mathclub you are talking about right?  PS JQ+matchlub = new online poker goldmine!  JQ

Crazyhorse76 (United States) 1,971 Posts. Joined 11-21-2005.
07-08-2009 7:34 PM - In reply to

Zunga: 

 Why doesnt a group of the top online pro's start a site?  They can all be pros and make a killing off the business.  Shocked this hasnt happened yet to be honest.




Full Tilt spent TONS of $ on advertising, bonuses, sponsorships, development, etc.  And it took them years before it really took off.  Maybe not hard to run, but tough to get off the ground.  There are dozens of Pokerchamps out there for every Fulltilt or Stars.

SantanaBandana (United States) 673 Posts. Joined 03-27-2007.
07-08-2009 7:39 PM - In reply to

pm Russ Hamilton

clubkiller (United States) 946 Posts. Joined 05-18-2007.
07-08-2009 7:51 PM - In reply to

SantanaBandana: 
pm Russ Hamilton

follow this mans advice and learn how to not get caught, you should do quite well imo.

BigGunX (United States) 19,652 Posts. Joined 02-22-2005.
07-08-2009 9:01 PM - In reply to

mathclub, let's start our own.


Acpittboss (United States) 1,015 Posts. Joined 11-29-2007.
07-08-2009 9:24 PM - In reply to

what about chanpoker or what ever that is


vil1ain (United Kingdom) 345 Posts. Joined 03-05-2007.
07-09-2009 8:25 AM - In reply to

TC_Clueless: 
Please direct me to aforementioned "smaller site with solid software" that is for sale. thx in advance.


The Cryptologic network recently closed and the likes of William Hill, SunPoker went to ipoker, and others went to Boss Network.  IMO crypto was far better software than ipoker or boss so im sure someone could bet hold of it and create a semi-decent alternative.

vil1ain (United Kingdom) 345 Posts. Joined 03-05-2007.
07-09-2009 8:29 AM - In reply to

Crazyhorse76: 
Zunga: 

 Why doesnt a group of the top online pro's start a site?  They can all be pros and make a killing off the business.  Shocked this hasnt happened yet to be honest.




Full Tilt spent TONS of $ on advertising, bonuses, sponsorships, development, etc.  And it took them years before it really took off.  Maybe not hard to run, but tough to get off the ground.  There are dozens of Pokerchamps out there for every Fulltilt or Stars.


Pokerchamps is still alive, its just called Betfair now.

POTYH (United States) 143 Posts. Joined 06-18-2009.
07-09-2009 9:23 AM - In reply to

Zunga: 

 Why doesnt a group of the top online pro's start a site?  They can all be pros and make a killing off the business.  Shocked this hasnt happened yet to be honest.

pm DUTCH BOYD
 
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