Poker Discussion Post

 idk the exact math but this looks like a push to me.

Push, not only you have a decent hand to do it, you also have a shorter stack whose calling range is usually pretty narrow and a not much bigger stack who is calling light either. I don't figure the ratio you're talking about, I just grew an intuition in these kind of spots, but with some pretty simple calculations you could get there. I really don't feel like doing math, someone will probably do it though...

doubledave22:

unless u have like a really bad image or history where u think these guys will call light more than normal then yeah its a shove. to figure out the ev you need a few pieces of info. A) their calling ranges B) how your hand does vs their calling ranges. C) the % of the time ull pick up the pot preflop (due to their calling ranges). Then you calculate total ev by a bunch of math too lazy to explain right now maybe later.

Push because:

- Those antes are REALLY fat!  200 antes at 800-1600 are large, and that's a consideration. 

- Even though your stack is ~12BBs, your M is lower than usual because of those fat antes.

- putUOntilt might make a decision that keeps him in the money by folding a hand that should be a borderline call.  Some of those hands might be Q9, K9, QJ, KJ, and MAYBE A9!

- RomanHoman might think that you wouldn't shove 12BB without a pretty big hand near the bubble and might call too tight as well.

- J9o plays okay against monsters, better than say, K7o does.

Puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuush!