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It's been said before but dam stars new payouts suck!
Kenny Rap (United States) 1,973 Posts. Joined 11-28-2005.
06-28-2008 12:10 PM

380 people in a 100 freeze and under 8k for first? 50r is like 8k for first? Simply awful and very greedy by stars if it is due to have more rake circulating quicker.

Is WCOOP going to have this new awful payout? I thought point of mtts was play for first.
 
 
 

Fife19 (Canada) 10,698 Posts. Joined 06-13-2006.
06-28-2008 5:39 PM - In reply to

It doesnt even out though. Essentially the winning players win a little less.... and the losing players win a little more(errr lose a little slower). Which in theory just causes them to play "x" amount more tourneys before they go bust.... So Stars, over a long period, make a helluva lot more in rake from the losing players. Its smart that they did this, as losing players make up such a larger percentage than the winning players do. It sucks, but makes sense from a business standpoint. And honestly, theres still alot of money to be made, are the winning players really going to boycott or do anything about it? Thats a big no, Stars knows this, as do most of you guys.

 

Cliffnotes- Have to keep the fish happy... as the winning players can bitch all they want but arent going anywhere.


SICKTIGHT311 (United States) 22,068 Posts. Joined 07-11-2006.
06-28-2008 6:07 PM - In reply to

 

rocksolid124: 

And make the 11 dollar tourney at 3:00 AM a 5k guarantee.  Always hits this number :) 




Plz plz plz plz plz plz plz, thank you.

LookingFLuck (United States) 269 Posts. Joined 11-22-2007.
06-28-2008 6:36 PM - In reply to

<3>3>3 Kenny!  I agree.  And...GLGLGL


sheila12 (United States) 296 Posts. Joined 11-08-2006.
06-28-2008 6:38 PM - In reply to

COSIGN!!!! Plz fix the payouts... 


kidrockin (United States) 4,766 Posts. Joined 10-03-2005.
06-28-2008 6:47 PM - In reply to

agreed..shotty structure


goleafsgoeh (Canada) 68 Posts. Joined 03-13-2007.
06-28-2008 7:56 PM - In reply to

Cosign to the power of (Open ended straight flush draw with 2 overs)

No tournament should ever pay more than 10%..............periods


m_hawk_1 (Australia) 277 Posts. Joined 03-12-2007.
06-28-2008 7:57 PM - In reply to

Kenny Rap: 

380 people in a 100 freeze and under 8k for first? 50r is like 8k for first? Simply awful and very greedy by stars if it is due to have more rake circulating quicker.

Is WCOOP going to have this new awful payout? I thought point of mtts was play for first.


Instacosign. 

Unfortunately I think the P5s community is probably not a good representative cross-section of the online poker community in general.  There are probably a LOT of casual players who love sneaking into the cash a bit more often and have never even heard of P5s.  Also gotta remember that keeping these guys happy not only feeds Stars, but it also feeds the entire poker economy (including the bank balances of winning players) from the bottom up - regardless of the stakes you or they play.

AGame18 (United States) 1,076 Posts. Joined 01-16-2007.
06-28-2008 8:34 PM - In reply to

I dont play mtts much anymore, but changing it back to the old payout structure would be a nice start to getting me to consider playing them again on stars.



Cosizzlez


Plattsburgh (United States) 3,331 Posts. Joined 08-18-2005.
06-28-2008 8:53 PM - In reply to

change it back or boycott wcoop imo


mekongplease (United States) 187 Posts. Joined 05-12-2006.
06-28-2008 8:59 PM - In reply to

Play at tilt is great if you don't mind playing against your own money in the long run.


Oh and I thought the point was to chop. LOL


0 Posts. Joined 08-06-2007.
06-28-2008 8:59 PM - In reply to

3/4ths of poker players have never heard  of pfives or 2p2....so i am pretty sure Pokerstars has an easy decision here..

please the 75+ percent of losing players or please the 25- percent of winning/breakeven players....

you boycott..they care very little....imo

Jack_Ace75 (United States) 1,452 Posts. Joined 08-18-2005.
06-28-2008 9:07 PM - In reply to

the payout structure does suck...they should scale back the payouts and increase the payouts for top finishers period. who the hell wants to play for hours and only get a fe buy ins back? change that pronto! 


bikocruz (United States) 1,042 Posts. Joined 06-10-2006.
06-28-2008 9:09 PM - In reply to

 cosign


threeven (United States) 15,043 Posts. Joined 02-18-2006.
06-28-2008 9:18 PM - In reply to

I agree. Everyday FTP is getting closer and closer to getting all my business. FTP's tournament schedule makes stars look like UB.


BigGunX (United States) 19,290 Posts. Joined 02-22-2005.
06-28-2008 9:20 PM - In reply to

gillabong: 
POKER_PANDA: 
gillabong: 

srsly BryanS, do you ever listen to any players? you are NOT doing a good job



to put this all on bryan is about as stupid as the payout structure itself.  Bryan usually responds here fairly quickly and answers the questions honestly and promptly.  I think he does his job pretty well actually. . .

that being said just wanted to bump this more than anything. 

seriously, cashing in a tourney w/out getting ur buy in back is horrid.


who said i'm putting it all on him?  he is top man on the totem pole isn't he?  he deserves a chunk of this heat.



lol.  No he's not the "top man on the totem pole."  He is a dedicated employee of PokerStars who does have a say in their tourney schedule.  I know him personally, and I can assure you he's taking our concerns to the people that make these decisions.
 
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