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johnathan little fired from ftp...but...RE: clonie gowen
Cmoney3 (United States) 7,124 Posts. Joined 12-26-2005.
03-04-2008 3:31 PM

ok most ppl know taht, this thread isnt really about that

http://pokerforums.fulltiltpoker.com/viewtopic.php?t=48973&highlight=

but i sepcifically remember clonie gowen playing in a live event and also in the Sunday major on ftp simultaneously

seems to me like a double std is being applied

shouldnt clonie be also fired, as this is her 2nd strike, first being that she blatantly copied jsups article and passed it along as her own

seems to me like if clonie was playing live, it would be hard to believe that she was actually the "pro" behind her computer playing the sunday major simultaneously

so, my question is, if johnathan little was fired from ftp, shouldnt clonie gowen be fired for the same exact thing?

also, please leave out the fact that clonie is horrible at poker in this arguement, as that has nothing to do with it.
 
 
 

webb10king1 (United States) 1,154 Posts. Joined 03-08-2006.
03-04-2008 8:06 PM - In reply to

gg 100% rakeback imo

meierp (United States) 112 Posts. Joined 09-27-2007.
03-04-2008 9:03 PM - In reply to

for the idiots who are saying he did this to crush the sng leaderboard are morons. If u didnt know he is an instructor at SNGicons.com. I am sure what happened was his friends from this site asked him if they could play on his name because of the 100% rakeback, being the nice guy he is im sure he wanted to help his fellow grinders. Obviously it was wrong, and he got canned for it. But for some idiot to say he was trying to crush the sng leaderboard is retarded the guys a millionaire, I'm sure thats not his main concern in life 

Disrespect (Australia) 1,610 Posts. Joined 11-03-2005.
03-04-2008 9:25 PM - In reply to

How sure?

Randers (United States) 6,303 Posts. Joined 11-23-2005.
03-04-2008 9:27 PM - In reply to

maybe he didn't try but he did...and his account colluded to get there. duh

meierp (United States) 112 Posts. Joined 09-27-2007.
03-04-2008 9:31 PM - In reply to

wow randers thanks for that insight lol, who cares about the sng leaderboard that has nothing to do with it.

Randers (United States) 6,303 Posts. Joined 11-23-2005.
03-04-2008 9:32 PM - In reply to

20X 500 or 1k has a lot to do with it duh

Randers (United States) 6,303 Posts. Joined 11-23-2005.
03-04-2008 9:34 PM - In reply to

as for who the real morons are...lets look at the people who announced the fact that he was sharing his acct.

meierp (United States) 112 Posts. Joined 09-27-2007.
03-04-2008 9:37 PM - In reply to

1k are you serious, do you think he called up everyone to get 1k from the leaderboard. hmm dont think so, you are missing hte point we know he cheated, but I think your missing the fact he was probably just helping out his friends. Not trying to get fucking 1k for a leaderboard lol 

Randers (United States) 6,303 Posts. Joined 11-23-2005.
03-04-2008 9:39 PM - In reply to

he lead the leaderboard..so he gets 20* his favorite buyin...not the point either. i understand helping friends and wanting the rakeback...just idiotic of his friends to announce what was going on ...and maybe dumber to collect the rakeback in a game that has a player's leaderboard. ldo

BigSanka (United States) 233 Posts. Joined 06-10-2007.
03-04-2008 11:06 PM - In reply to

where can I find more out more about the clonie plagarism scandal

FastMoney7 (United States) 670 Posts. Joined 01-03-2008.
03-04-2008 11:08 PM - In reply to

PLAYBOY

OSUBucks42 (United States) 1,993 Posts. Joined 03-28-2006.
03-04-2008 11:15 PM - In reply to

here?

apology


dmmikkel (Norway) 324 Posts. Joined 02-21-2006.
03-05-2008 9:57 AM - In reply to

Well the thing is that Pros aren't eligible for the leader board and most other promos.

I just can't see how Jonathan would do this to himself. Think what this deal could have been worth to him over a long period. I would never do anything that stupid to jeopardize such a great deal.

orgnalsooners (United States) 1,393 Posts. Joined 11-14-2007.
03-05-2008 2:30 PM - In reply to

 I wasnt going to respond to this post but now I have to since assumptions are being made like were in High School again and the whole " he did it  so he must be doing it also" First, if you do not KNOW something you should try to refrain from saying it in a public forum... Yes you have freedom of speech obv but think if you would like someone airing out shit in a public forum  about you who doesnt even know you.... I have known all 4 people in this thread( JL for 2 yrs and  Clonie, Karina, and Chip for > 5 years) I am actually really shocked that JL did this because I have great respect for him and his game but having not talked to him lately I wont judge... The part that is making me post is bringing karina & Chip into this thread... They have both given up travelling the tour that FTP would put them into so that they can be stay at home parents... They have a nanny that stays with them full time and I know for 100% certainty that when they are on that it is them... In fact not knowing the rules of their sponsorship I asked Chip if he wanted me to start an ftops event for him back in November when we were in Oregon at a tournament there(Karina and the kids were there also)  Chip was low on chips and didnt figure to make it to dinner break and could then take over... He said thanks but it was against FTP rules and that it wasnt right even if I only ended up playing 1 hand... Kudos to Chip for this and gl to all 4 mentioned in post... FYI, I worked for Fox Sports for 7 years and the world in which poker players live isnt quite the real business world and EVERYONE is treated differently as a poster said... Obv someone who owns part of company is gonna get it a little(no punt intended with little) different than an employee....  
 
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