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After busting 26th in the $5 2r1a on Stars b/c 88>my TT, so i get the bright idea to go play some 1/2 at the local casino.
After about an hour im sitting at a table with a bunch of bad nits and one decent player. Most of the table is 100-200bbs but the decent player and I are both ~400bbs deep. Preflop he standard raises (6bb) and i flat along with two others (holding Qd8d). Flop comes Qc 8h 6h Decent player bets out 15BB (into ~25) and after one flat i raise to 45BBs. Other player behind folds and after villain's calls the other caller folds (bringing pot to 115BBs and leaving us both ~350BBs) Turn come Ah He checks to me and i Check behind (figuring that ill play pot control b/c of the scary turn) River comes Qh He leads out for 70bbs and i raise it to 160bbs and then he jams. I call of and he flips AQ to ship $1600-$1700 pot at 1/2 while im left feeling like God himself is out to get me... Am i really suppose to just flat the river? Or fold to the jam?? I play mostly tourneys and i know that in MTTs we chalk this up to variance, but when im already in one of my worst live (and online) downswing since ive started playing poker for more than entertainment and its BRUTAL... Muppet or UL??
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where did he raise from? where did you call from?
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unlucky, his range is pretty wide cuse its live 1/2. also please dont put the bets and stacks in terms of BB its incredibly hard to follow.
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 Aarin: | |
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playing alittle high for a $5 mtt player
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i guess it´s just unlucky, the only hands you can´t beat is AA and AQ.. in a higher live cash games you could have prolly just called cause against really good players you never get called by a flush, maybe pocket 66 but would he reraise 66 on the flop??so it´s just unlucky that he figured to have on of those two hands... nothing you can do there..
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I think the lesson to be learned is don't play q/8. I'm a nit though and suck at this wicked bitch we call poker.
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| illumirunus: | |
playing alittle high for a $5 mtt player
I play 1/2 and 2/5 pretty frequently at the local casino (the play is horrible and through maybe 500hrs im up pretty decently... BUT i do care about the $ more than i should...
About in BBs: sorry, i was steaming when i got home and was still thinking about it in BBs About the position: He was middle position and had been making the play very standard (over 50%)
I guess the real question (after chilling out) is do i miss any real value by not raising the river?
IMO i can either raise much bigger on the flop or just flat the river instead of raising... Do others think that he ever shows up with the flush and pays me off? (Enough of the time to deal with the losing entire stack when im against AA or AQ?)
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| illumirunus: | |
playing alittle high for a $5 mtt player
this post is dumb and makes me angry. the .5/.10 game at his casino prolly wasnt running.
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u would have loved for him to have AQ on the flop...you said the turn
was scary and wanted to play pot control..then you get it all in...im
not saying its bad, but realistically, K,Q, 66, AQ,AA and are the only
hands your up against here, and if villian is competent like you say..i
doubt he jams it all here with any heart flush IMO....btw, dont be
results oriented..its one hand, and yes a cooler
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Its a sick cooler IMO....maybe flat his river bet, idk, but then you're playing really defensively....I suppose u could raise more on flop, but then you might price out his AQ....
Normally I'd say to not play the Q8dd regardless of position, but every time I play live 1-2 & I'm 300-400 bbs deep my range is huge as well....UL bro
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| racer: | |
u would have loved for him to have AQ on the flop...you said the turnwas scary and wanted to play pot control..then you get it all in...imnot saying its bad, but realistically, K,Q, 66, AQ,AA and are the onlyhands your up against here, and if villian is competent like you say..idoubt he jams it all here with any heart flush IMO....btw, dont beresults oriented..its one hand, and yes a cooler
See this was my prob, pot control was incase of flush or set wasnt that worried about AQ, when the river came a Q and he bet i almost just flatted b/c of lack of hands with value, i small-ish raised with the hopes that a flush made it and calls the bet or he bitches and folds (preventing me from showing Q8s i played). The problem with the raise was i didnt want to get reshoved and when i did i wasnt good enough to fold... So at which point to i become stupid? Do i flat call river, do i raise/fold? or should i just have waited until the .05/.10 game started... :-D lol
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| Luckless: | |
this post is dumb and makes me angry. the .5/.10 game at his casino prolly wasnt running.
:-) ty sir
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