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The fact that there is only 1 person is truly happy out of thousand's of players in a given tournament just makes playing MTT's on a regular basis incredibly frustrating. After Cal's shitty loss to Maryland on Thursday, I was trying to explain to my friends why I don't take Cal's loses hard like I used to and my reason was because of poker. Basically I said that I have encountered so many frustrating and disappointing situation that directly affect my bottom line, that I have become numb to a lot of minor to medium dissapointments in life. This may seem like a good thing on the surface because things don't bother me as much as they used to, but in order to get to this point I had to unnecessarily suffer so much frustration and disappointments. All jobs have negatives, and the frustrating and disappointing nature of playing MTT's is the main negative of a full time job playing MTT's, this negative is off-set by the freedom, not having a boss and the money. But hobbies are supposed to be fun and are not supposed to have this much negative associated with them. I'm not quitting or anything, just realizing that playing MTT's really doesn't make me happy and that I will be playing a whole lot less of them in the future. I know that a lot of players have come to this same conclusion as me and have quit or started playing cash. Messing around in a super turbo MTT before I go to bed is fine, staying inside all day on Sunday when my friends are at the bars is not. I'm not knocking anyone who plays MTT's for a living as it is a job with a lot of good aspects to it, just saying that as a hobby, it is not really worth it for me anymore.
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swd805
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03-23-2009 1:37 PM
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ronkend
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MTTs are the devil. So fun, and so painful at the same time.
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they make my head explode
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Well so which is it to you, a hobby or a job?
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I hear ya man. My friends and I discuss every day how gay/frustrating MTT's are. At the same time, when you finally ship one it's a great feeling. Quite the love hate relationship.
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younggunzosu22: |   |
I hear ya man. My friends and I discuss every day how gay/frustrating MTT's are. At the same time, when you finally ship one it's a great feeling. Quite the love hate relationship.
i haven't cashed in my last 30 mtts =\ very frustrating indeed
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swd805: |   |
I'm certainly not complaining about my overall results, i have been very lucky to run this far ahead of my expectation. Even with me being very lucky and having more positive experiences then my play would dictate, there is still too much negative to make it worth it. Overall poker has been positive for me and if I had to do it all over again, I would do the same thing, but now at this point when the games have become more difficult, I feel that in the future I there are more negatives to playing MTT's then positive one's. So basically what I'm saying is my expected RIO is not good enough to make the pain of MTT's worth it. And even if my expected RIO was as high as some of the top players, I'm still not sure it would be worth it because I have another source of income, so anything else that I do that is not work, should be fun and MTT's are not nearly as fun as they used to be.
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jaykay24: |   |
Well so which is it to you, a hobby or a job?
It is a hobby for me. If it was a job then I could take the frustration because every job I have ever had is frustrating in one way or another, but as a hobby it is not worth the frustration.
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You want to hear dissapointment? I went out 234th in the 1/4 Million Gtd and made 110 bucks. I beat 29,400 people. I mean..that's like winning the main event...and I made squat. I play so perfect and then matusow blowup :(
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I got a question...does anyone really understand variance? This has nothing to do with you or your post really, but u said u ran above expectation. What is above expectation? Does that mean having a 100%+ ROI over XXXX mtts? I hear so many people talk about running over/under expectation, but no numbers as to what we should compare them to. Like obv pikapp, halfrek, julian verse, etc have all run above, and people like Lil say they run below, but does anyone run normal, and if so, what is this "magical" number?
Btw, mtts suck, and my last month was astronomical for my limits, and this month I pissed away the only profit i had from one mtt...always another mtt to play and turn it around I guess...best of luck.
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CalBandGreat: |   |
The fact that there is only 1 person is truly happy out of thousand's of players in a given tournament just makes playing MTT's on a regular basis incredibly frustrating. After Cal's shitty loss to Maryland on Thursday, I was trying to explain to my friends why I don't take Cal's loses hard like I used to and my reason was because of poker. Basically I said that I have encountered so many frustrating and disappointing situation that directly affect my bottom line, that I have become numb to a lot of minor to medium dissapointments in life. This may seem like a good thing on the surface because things don't bother me as much as they used to, but in order to get to this point I had to unnecessarily suffer so much frustration and disappointments. All jobs have negatives, and the frustrating and disappointing nature of playing MTT's is the main negative of a full time job playing MTT's, this negative is off-set by the freedom, not having a boss and the money. But hobbies are supposed to be fun and are not supposed to have this much negative associated with them. I'm not quitting or anything, just realizing that playing MTT's really doesn't make me happy and that I will be playing a whole lot less of them in the future. I know that a lot of players have come to this same conclusion as me and have quit or started playing cash. Messing around in a super turbo MTT before I go to bed is fine, staying inside all day on Sunday when my friends are at the bars is not. I'm not knocking anyone who plays MTT's for a living as it is a job with a lot of good aspects to it, just saying that as a hobby, it is not really worth it for me anymore.
cal i have never agreed with you more. This is something ive been struggling with as well. Sure ftops was great for me and uboc was awesome too but other than that ive had limited success... and inbetween the good cashes its just an unreal amount of frustration. I 100% agree that because of poker nothing really pisses me off anymore lol... im numb to bad shit that happens in life unless its rly bad obv. Its such a brutal game and when its bad it makes me not wanna even consider doing it for a living. The one thing i do have to say tho is that when its good its better than like 99% of other jobs when they are good. The money comes in so fast and its such a rush almost makes all the losing worth it. MTTs are definately a mental strain though and arent for the weak hearted ppl.
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th3priest09: |   |
You want to hear dissapointment? I went out 234th in the 1/4 Million Gtd and made 110 bucks. I beat 29,400 people. I mean..that's like winning the main event...and I made squat. I play so perfect and then matusow blowup :(
Yeah I finished like 90th or something in that World Record Tournament with 35,000 runners :(. I'm not trying to argue that my MTT experience has been uniquely painful, quite the opposite, it has been a lot less painful the average MTT experience and even so it is just too painful to continue with this much committment.
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swd805
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03-23-2009 2:24 PM
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bef99hwk: |   |
people like Lil say they run below
this is one of the funniest and saddest things ever
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